Calculating magnetic flux density using Biot-Savart law.

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The discussion revolves around calculating magnetic flux density using the Biot-Savart law, specifically in the context of a problem involving multiple wires in the x/y plane. Participants are examining the setup and the mathematical expressions involved in the calculation.

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  • Participants are questioning the definitions and variables used, such as the meaning of "r" and the relevance of the z-coordinate. There is discussion about the expression for ##\vec{R}## and its implications. Some participants express confusion about the integration limits and the need to account for multiple wires in the calculation.

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The discussion is active with participants providing feedback on each other's reasoning and questioning various aspects of the original poster's approach. There is a focus on clarifying assumptions and ensuring that the mathematical setup aligns with the physical context of the problem.

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There are indications of potential misunderstandings regarding the geometry of the problem, particularly concerning the coordinates and the integration limits. Participants are also addressing the need to consider contributions from all wires involved in the calculation.

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Hello, all. I have been working on the following problem and was wondering if someone could check my work and provide some valuable input:
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Here is my work:
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What do you guys think about my approach to this problem?

 
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What is r, why do you consider z if everything happens in the x/y plane? Where does the expression for ##\vec{R}## come from?
In particular, how can your result depend on "r" which does not appear in the problem statement? The direction of the answer does not seem to make sense - how can something at the origin point in the direction of an angle?

Did you try to use cylindrical coordinates? I don't think that helps.

I don't understand why you integrate from -a to a.

I think you forgot to multiply the final result by 3 for the three wires, but there are several other things to fix first.
 
mfb said:
What is r, why do you consider z if everything happens in the x/y plane? Where does the expression for ##\vec{R}## come from?
In particular, how can your result depend on "r" which does not appear in the problem statement? The direction of the answer does not seem to make sense - how can something at the origin point in the direction of an angle?

Did you try to use cylindrical coordinates? I don't think that helps.

I don't understand why you integrate from -a to a.

I think you forgot to multiply the final result by 3 for the three wires, but there are several other things to fix first.
You are correct. Neither dl nor R should have components along ez. Since the triangle lies in the x-y plane (z=0), dl should have components along ex and ey. Also, R should only have components along ex and ey because it's pointing from the location of dl , which is in the x-y plane, to the origin, which is also in the x-y plane. Accordingly, the cross product dl x R would come out to be along ez, which is what we should expect from the right hand rule.

I am having a hard time computing dl and R. When I find dl and R it's a simple substitution into dB from there. Could you show me how you would calculate dl and R ?
 
Did you find the coordinates of the three corners? dl will be along one of the edges - there is an easy one and two more complicated edges. R follows from the choice of the edge. Note that it varies along the length of the wire.
 

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