Calculating Mass Percent of Aluminum in a Sample Using Ideal Gas Law

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mass percent of aluminum in a sample that reacts with hydrochloric acid (HCl) to produce hydrogen gas (H2). The context includes the application of the ideal gas law and stoichiometric relationships in a chemical reaction.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a reaction involving aluminum and HCl, expressing confusion about how to approach the problem.
  • Another participant corrects the initial mole calculation of aluminum and suggests that the mass of HCl provided may not be relevant, proposing that it could be the mass of the aluminum sample instead.
  • A later reply clarifies the correct interpretation of the problem, emphasizing that the stoichiometry of the reaction is crucial for determining the amount of aluminum based on the hydrogen produced.
  • Further calculations are presented, estimating the moles of aluminum reacted and the resulting mass percent in the sample.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the stoichiometric relationship between aluminum and hydrogen in the reaction, but there is initial confusion regarding the interpretation of the problem and the quantities involved. The discussion reflects a progression from misunderstanding to clarity, with some uncertainty remaining about the initial setup.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the initial assumptions about the quantities of reactants and products, as well as the interpretation of the problem statement. The dependence on the correct stoichiometric coefficients is crucial for accurate calculations.

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This discussion may be useful for students learning about stoichiometry, the ideal gas law, and chemical reactions involving metals and acids.

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Please don't ignore the template.
Hello, sorry to bother again.

A sample containing Al reacts with an aqueous solution of 5.05 g HCl producing 5.70 L of H2 at 20°C and 742 mmHg.
Find the mass percent of Al in the sample assuming hydrogen behaves like an ideal gas.I can't again understand this exercise, because I've never done any like this before.
The only reaction I know involving aluminium and HCl is:
\mathrm{2Al+6HCl \to 2AlCl_3 + 3H_2}
but it doesn't seem useful.

I calculated 0.139 mol of Al and 0.231 mol of H2 using the ideal gas law.

I can't see any clue about my sample though.
 
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Your number of moles of hydrogen is correct, yet you managed to miscalculate the amount of Al.

As worded question can't be solved, and it is self contradicting - you can't produce 0.231 moles of hydrogen using 5.05 grams of HCl. My bet is 5.05 g is a mass of the Al sample. Would it help?
 
My bad, what a mess: I meant 0.139 mol of HCl. But let's forget about this because your bet is correct: I saw again the text of the exercise and I didn't noticed a comma, it was 5.05 g of the sample containing Al (not only it).

Nevertheless I'm not able to understand the exercise yet: HCl reacts with this sample producing H2. The reaction I wrote earlier doesn't seem useful here.
I don't know how much HCl reacts because I don't know the substances involved in the reaction and so the stoichiometric coefficients.

It will be wrong, but my interpretation of the problem is this:

\mathrm{HCl+X...Al_n \to Y+H_2}Thank you for your answer.
 
The reaction you wrote earlier is exactly the one needed to solve the problem.

Doesn't matter how much HCl reacted, only thing that matters is that all Al was dissolved. That means amount of hydrogen produced depends on the amount of Al present initially.
 
From the stoichiometry and considering 0.231 mol of H2 are formed, the moles of Al reacted are 0.154, that is 4.16 g (82.4% of the sample).

Is it right?
 
Yes, that's it.
 

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