Cant understand those lines in a text about solid state physics

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The discussion centers on understanding calculations related to gas molecules in solid state physics. Participants express confusion over the division of molecules traveling in six directions, clarifying that gas molecules constantly change direction due to collisions, justifying the average distribution. Questions arise about the formula involving density and distance, with participants questioning the validity of multiplying density by distance and the meaning of the resulting units. Additionally, there is confusion regarding the inclusion of the number of molecules (n) in the energy formula, with suggestions that using the ideal gas law could clarify the relationship between pressure, temperature, and density. Overall, the thread highlights the complexities of interpreting formulas in gas physics.
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"we want to calculate the heat enrgy of a gas molecule
n - is the number of molecules per volume
v_th - is the average speed of gas molecule
L - is the distance which travels one molecule in a certain time

we have six directions for which they travel
+-x +-y +-z

so in each time n/6 of the molecules travel in every one of those 6 dircetion."


i can't see how?
we have n molecules why they divided evenly
it could be the in the +z direction move 5/6n of the molecules

??
 
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Gas molecules are energetic and bounces off of walls and gazillions of other gas molecules. As a result they constantly change direction. That's why it's impractical to assign one specific direction because in the next moment a gas molecule will bounce off something and fly in the opposite direction. That's why the average of 6 possible directions is taken.
 
thanks :)
next question about missundertood text:(question 2)
"the total amount of molecules which hit an area unit in a certain time
equals 1/6 of the number of molecules which present in the rectangular box
the area of its base is L=V_th*1
so
we have 1/6 * n *L=(n*V_th)/6
"
a bout this
L=V_th*1
V_th is the speed .sped times 1 cannot be area?

how they got
1/6 * n *L*1=(n*V_th)/6
?
n is the number of molecules per volume ,L is the distance which travels in some time
so i can't understand what is the result of multiplying dencity by distance
its undefined.

n*V_th is speed time density another undefined unit
??
 
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(question 3)
formula question:"
calculate the density n and its the material energy of a gas which is contained in presure 5 and termperature 325k"

i am not asking you to solve this homw work question
my question is about the formula
i know that
<br /> \frac{mv_{th}^2}{2}=\frac{3}{2}kT
the left side represent the total energy
or
<br /> E=\frac{3}{2}kT
so i used this formula
but in the solution they use
<br /> E=n\frac{3}{2}kT
why they added the n?
 
nhrock3 said:
(question 3)
formula question:"
calculate the density n and its the material energy of a gas which is contained in presure 5 and termperature 325k"

i am not asking you to solve this homw work question
my question is about the formula
i know that
<br /> \frac{mv_{th}^2}{2}=\frac{3}{2}kT
the left side represent the total energy
or
<br /> E=\frac{3}{2}kT
so i used this formula
but in the solution they use
<br /> E=n\frac{3}{2}kT
why they added the n?

I'm not sure this is helpful, but if you are wanting to determine the density of an ideal gas, n, wouldn't you want to use p=nkT where p is the pressure, T is the temperature, and k is Boltzmann's constant?
 
i need to calculate the energy too
my dilema is about the formula they used its not like the formal formulaa
 
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