Centripetal Acceleration question

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The discussion revolves around calculating the speed of a bob in a conical pendulum using centripetal acceleration principles. The key equations involve the tension in the string and the relationship between the radial and vertical components of forces acting on the bob. Participants clarify that the radius (r) is equal to d sin θ, and the tension (FT) can be expressed in terms of gravitational force (mg) adjusted by the angle θ. There is some confusion regarding the inclusion of mass in the equations, but it is confirmed that the initial solution is fundamentally correct. The final expression for speed (v) is derived as v = sqrt(g d tan θ sin θ).
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Homework Statement



Consider a conical pendulum that consists of a bob
on one end of a string of negligible mass with the other end of the
string attached to a point on the ceiling, as shown. Given the proper
push, this pendulum can swing in a circle at a given angle, maintaining
the same distance from the ceiling throughout its swing. If the mass of
the bob is , the length of the string is d, and the angle at which it
swings is θ, what is the speed (v) of the mass as it swings? [Hint: Find
the vertical and inward radial components of the string’s tension.]

Homework Equations



FR = (mv2)/r

The Attempt at a Solution



For \SigmaFy I got FT = mg/cos θ

I said r = dsinθ

And for \SigmaFR I got FTdsin2 θ = v2

Plug in mg/cos θ for FT and sqrt(gd tanθ sin θ)= v

Is that right?
 

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I don't follow your equation for the radial forces. You have the Ft*sinθ component equaling the centripetal force, don't you? Surely there has to be an m in it. Why is the sin squared?
 
At the start I have
FTsin θ = mv2/r

Put in dsin θ for r and move to the other side

FTsin2 θ = mv2

Put in mg/cos θ from the y forces for FT

mgdsin2 θ/cos θ = mv2

The masses cancel and 1 of the sin2/cos becomes tangent

gd tan θ sin θ = v2

sqrt(gdtan θ sin θ) = v

Did I do something wrong? r is equal to dsin θ right?
 
:( from your image, I find that sin \Theta = \frac{d}{R}
 
ApexOfDE said:
:( from your image, I find that sin \Theta = \frac{d}{R}

sin is opp/hyp right? r would be opp and d would be hyp. sin θ = r/d So dsin θ = r
 
DavidDishere said:
sqrt(gdtan θ sin θ) = v

Did I do something wrong? r is equal to dsin θ right?
No, your solution is perfectly fine. And yes, r = d sinθ. (In your first post you did leave off an m, as Delphi51 points out.)
 
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