Comparison between CFD results and experimental data

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This discussion centers on the comparison of RANS simulation results of methane and air jets with experimental data primarily focused on water jets. It concludes that while comparing results is possible if the Reynolds numbers are identical, significant differences in behavior between water and air jets necessitate careful scaling and validation. The discussion emphasizes the importance of model validation in CFD, noting that turbulence models may fail to accurately predict jet properties. A key reference for turbulent round jet measurements is the paper by Hussein et al. (1994).

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Hi everybody,
my question is not properly about CFD but mainly about Fluid Dynamics itself. I have performed a RANS simulation of a round jet of methane and air and now I'd like to compare those results to some experiments. Unfortunately there aren't papers about experimental data for methane/air jets but mainly I'm finding a lot of data about round jets of water with different nozzle dimensions. So my question is: can I compare those experimental data with my results if the Reynolds number are the same? Or is it highly incorrect?

Thank you guys!
 
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I don't believe that would be a good comparison. Unfortunately, this is the most troubling aspect of CFD: model validation.
 
A water jet in air will behave different from a water jet in water. An air jet in stagnant air will behave in the same way as a water jet in stagnant water. This means you can compare measurements of an air jet (in air) with a water jet (in water) after scaling the results properly. There must be hundreds of papers describing measurements and simulations of round and planar jet flows. The constants appearing in turbulence models were derived from such measurements! And you will quickly discover that even for such simple cases, some turbulence models will completely fail to predict even the most basic properties of such jets, like the spreading rate.

The best paper on measurements in turbulent round jets is
Hussein,Cap,George, Velocity measurements in a high-Reynolds-number, momentum conserving,axisymmetric, turbulent jet, Journal of Fluid Mechanics 258 (1994) pp. 31-75
As soon as you ignite your jet, you have to use measurements done in a reacting flow, off course.
 

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