Conceptual thermodynamics problem about ammonia executing a Carnot cycle

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In the Carnot cycle involving ammonia, the work done during the phase change in the condenser (process 2-3) is zero because both temperature and pressure remain constant, indicating no expansion or compression occurs. The energy balance equation reveals that the work done is a function of changes in enthalpy and entropy, but since the process involves only heat transfer without shaft work, ΔW equals zero. The constant conditions in the condenser mean that the work associated with phase change is not present, reinforcing that the process is purely thermal. Additionally, real systems may exhibit sub-cooling and overheating, but these do not affect the fundamental reasoning for this idealized process. Understanding the operational characteristics of the condenser is crucial to grasping why no work is performed in this phase transition.
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Homework Statement
Explain why the work done in process 2-3 is zero.
Relevant Equations
ΔH = ΔQ-ΔW
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Is there a mathematical explanation for why the work done in the condenser (in process 2 to 3) is zero? I am aware that ammonia does not expand or compress in the condenser, only changes phase, but without knowing that the process takes place in a condenser and only considering the graph, according to which temperature is constant for process 2-3, how can it be seen that no work is done in this process?

In process 2-3 the temperature and pressure are both constant. Because the cycle is reversible, Q = ∫Tds.

Substituting this in the energy balance, -m'(Δh)+∫Tds = ΔW. Because temperature is constant, ΔW = T(Δs)-m'(Δh).

W = TΔs - ΔH = T(sf-sg) + m(hg - hf)

It is not clear to me why this quantity is zero for process 2-3.
 

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Andrew1234 said:
Homework Statement:: Explain why the work done in process 2-3 is zero.
Relevant Equations:: ΔH = ΔQ-ΔW

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Is there a mathematical explanation for why the work done in the condenser (in process 2 to 3) is zero? I am aware that ammonia does not expand or compress in the condenser, only changes phase, but without knowing that the process takes place in a condenser and only considering the graph, according to which temperature is constant for process 2-3, how can it be seen that no work is done in this process?

In process 2-3 the temperature and pressure are both constant. Because the cycle is reversible, Q = ∫Tds.

Substituting this in the energy balance, -m'(Δh)+∫Tds = ΔW. Because temperature is constant, ΔW = T(Δs)-m'(Δh).

W = TΔs - ΔH = T(sf-sg) + m(hg - hf)

It is not clear to me why this quantity is zero for process 2-3.
There is no way to know unless, as in the case of a condenser, the device has no shaft that does shaft work. In other words, you need to know something about how your device works.
 
Thank you for clarifying this concept
 
Both processes, 2 to 3 and 4 to 1, have only transfer of heat.
The value of delta work in the equation ΔH = ΔQ-ΔW is always zero for these processes.
In real systems, there are sub-cooling and overheating portions besides pure change of phase in these processes.
 
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