Coulomb's Law Problem magnitude and direction

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field at a midpoint between a -9.0 µC and a +6.0 µC charge that are 3.0 cm apart, with no other charges present. Participants are exploring the application of Coulomb's Law and the concept of electric fields.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conversion of charge units and distances, and the application of the formula for electric fields. There is confusion regarding the correct approach to find the electric field rather than the force between the charges. Questions arise about whether to set up separate equations for each charge's contribution to the electric field and how to handle the signs of the electric fields from the different charges.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the correct approach to calculate the electric field, emphasizing the need to consider the direction of the electric fields from both charges. There is an ongoing exploration of how to sum the contributions from each charge and the implications of their signs.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the implications of vector addition in the context of electric fields and are reminded to consider significant figures in their calculations. There is a lack of consensus on the final answer, with participants still questioning their calculations and understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement



What are the magnitude and direction of the electric field at a point midway between a -9.0 µC and a +6.0 µC charge 3.0 cm apart? Assume no other charges are nearby.

Homework Equations



Fe= {K(q1)(q2)}/d^2

k = (8.99 x 10^9)

The Attempt at a Solution



First I converted the µC to C =
-9 µC = -.000009 C
6 µC = .000006

Then convert 3 cm to mm = .03

(8.99 x 10^9) (-.000009) ( .000006 ) = -.48546

-.48546/d^2

-.48546/ .03

-539.4

My final answer is -539.4 but I know its wrong, can anyone tell me what I did incorrectly?
 
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swede5670 said:

Homework Statement



What are the magnitude and direction of the electric field at a point midway between a -9.0 µC and a +6.0 µC charge 3.0 cm apart? Assume no other charges are nearby.

Homework Equations


Fe= {K(q1)(q2)}/d^2
k = (8.99 x 10^9)

The Attempt at a Solution



First I converted the µC to C =
-9 µC = -.000009 C
6 µC = .000006

Then convert 3 cm to mm = .03

(8.99 x 10^9) (-.000009) ( .000006 ) = -.48546
-.48546/d^2
-.48546/ .03
-539.4

My final answer is -539.4 but I know its wrong, can anyone tell me what I did incorrectly?

You found the Force between the 2 charges. The question asks for the field at a point half way between the two.

F = q*E

What you want is E, given by

E = kq/r2

Your distance is .015 m to each. And remember these are vectors and when you add the field at the mid point you want to take care with what direction the field of each would be pointing.
 
What Q value would you use though?
 
swede5670 said:
What Q value would you use though?

For E you are using the q of the charges you are measuring. 1 term will be the field from the 6 µC charge and the other the 9 µC.
 
So there will therefore be two answers?

I'm confused by what your saying
"For E you are using the q of the charges you are measuring."
I realize this, but do I need to set up two equations then? Or do I have to add the charges?
 
swede5670 said:
So there will therefore be two answers?

I'm confused by what your saying
"For E you are using the q of the charges you are measuring."
I realize this, but do I need to set up two equations then? Or do I have to add the charges?

The E-field at any point will be the ∑ of the E from all charges
 
so sigma is the sum right?E = k(6x10^-6)/r2
is added with:
E = k(-9*10^-6)/r2

once I've added these two Es up is that my final answer?
 
swede5670 said:
so sigma is the sum right?

E = k(6x10^-6)/r2
is added with:
E = k(-9*10^-6)/r2

once I've added these two Es up is that my final answer?

Sort of. But you must be careful with the sign. Since one charge is plus and the other minus, in between the charges then the field magnitudes both add and point toward the negative charge.
 
{(8.99*10^9)(-9*10^-6)}/.015^2 = -359,600,000

{(8.99*10^9)(6*10^-6)}/.015^2 = 239, 733, 333

Adding these two up

-359,600,000 + 239, 733, 333 = -119, 866, 666

-119, 866, 666 N/C seems ridiculous, what did I do here?
 
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swede5670 said:
{(8.99*10^9)(-9*10^-6)}/.015^2 = -359,600,000

{(8.99*10^9)(6*10^-6)}/.015^2 = 239, 733, 333

Adding these two up

-359,600,000 + 239, 733, 333 = -119, 866, 666

-119, 866, 666 N/C seems ridiculous, what did I do here?

Not quite.

As I said several times, these are vectors. As it turns out both vectors are pointing in the same direction.

To determine the |F| then you simply add the |Fq1| + |Fq2|.

The - sign means that the Force points toward a charge and the + sign means that the field points away from the charge. Draw a picture nd you will see that at the mid point for these charges the E-field from both is pointing in the same direction ... hence the magnitudes add at that point.

Oh, and your answers have too many significant figures.
 

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