Electric Field of a circular arc at a point

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field at the origin due to a circular arc with a given radius and linear charge density. Participants are examining the setup and mathematical expressions related to the electric field generated by the charged arc.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss different methods for calculating the electric field, including the use of small charge segments and integration. There is a focus on the implications of using different variables, such as dy versus arc length, and how these affect the resulting calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the validity of certain assumptions and approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of symmetry and the relationship between different elements of the arc, but no consensus has been reached on the correct method or outcome.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted discrepancy between the original poster's approach and that of their textbook, leading to confusion about the correct application of charge density and integration techniques. The uniform charge distribution of the wire is a key assumption under discussion.

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Homework Statement


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Given that the circular arc wire with radius 'r' has a linear charge density ##\lambda##. What is the Electric field at the origin?

Homework Equations


##\vec{E}=\frac{kq}{r^2}## where ##k=9\times10^9## is a constant.

3. The Attempt at a Solution

I took a small segment dy ##\theta## above the x-axis with charge ##dq=\lambda dy##. Therefore ##d\vec{E}=\frac{k\lambda cos\theta dy}{r^2}## as all other charges along the y-axis cancel out each other.

Now ##cos\theta=\frac{x}{r}##. And ##x^2+y^2=r^2## is the equation of the arc.
Therefore ##cos\theta=\frac{\sqrt{r^2-y^2}}{r}##. And then proceeding to integrate ##d\vec{E}=\frac{k\lambda \sqrt{r^2-y^2} dy}{r^3}## and arrive at an answer.

But my text tackles the question the same way until, at a point it takes ##dy=rd\theta## and then substitutes and integrates ##d\vec{E}=\frac{k\lambda cos\theta d\theta}{r}## and arriving at an answer. But my answer differs from the one arrived by my textbook. Am I wrong somewhere?
 
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##dq=\lambda dy## would mean every "step" dy gives the same charge, and equivalently the same length of the wire. This is not true.
 
mfb said:
##dq=\lambda dy## would mean every "step" dy gives the same charge, and equivalently the same length of the wire. This is not true.
mfb : That is the condition given in the question. Moreover my text starts the solution in the same way. (The wire is uniformly charged)
 
Use symmetry to conclude what about the y component of E at the origin?
For the x component, dEx = k cosθ dq/R2 should be apparent.
What is dq in terms of arc length ds?
Go that way & you will wind up agreeing with your textbook.

As mfb implied, dy = R dθ is incorrect. R dθ is an element of arc length ds, not an element of distance along the y axis.
 

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