Electric field of a loop with one positive halve and one negative halve

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The problem involves calculating the electric field generated by a circular wire with a positive line charge on one half and a negative line charge on the other half. The setup includes determining the electric field at a point along the positive z-axis and analyzing the contributions from both charges.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to sketch electric field lines and calculate the electric field, expressing uncertainty about the contributions from the opposing charges.
  • Some participants suggest drawing vector contributions from diametrically opposed points and integrating to find the components of the electric field.
  • Questions arise regarding the direction of the electric field inside the circle and along the z-axis, with participants exploring the implications of symmetry in the charge distribution.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing guidance on visualizing the electric field contributions and confirming the correctness of the original poster's reasoning about the field directions. There is a collaborative effort to clarify the setup and approach to the calculations.

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The original poster is preparing for a final exam and is seeking assistance while navigating the complexities of the problem, including the integration of electric field contributions from both charge distributions.

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Homework Statement


Given a circular wire with radius R. Choose the origin in the center of the circle, the z-axis perpendicular to the circle. One halve of the circle contains a positive line charge \lambda, the other halve a negative line charge of the same magnitude.
(a) Sketch the electric field lines.
(b) Calculate the electric field in a point on the positive z-axis and argument that it contains only a component in the z direction.
(c) What is the direction of the electric field in the x-direction, and with what power of r does this field fall off?
I hope I have correctly translated this from Dutch. ;)

Homework Equations


\vec{E} = \frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_0}\int \frac{\hat{r}}{r^2}\lambda dl'

The Attempt at a Solution


(a) I have no idea how to do this. I thought because of the opposing charges the field will be zero inside the circle, outside the circle I haven't got a clue.
(b) For a circle with a uniform line charge it would have been simple, but I get the following result:
\vec{E} = \frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_0}(\lambda \int_{-\frac{\pi}{2}}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \frac{\hat{r}}{r^2} dl' - \lambda \int_{\frac{\pi}{2}}^{\frac{3\pi}{2}} \frac{\hat{r}}{r^2} dl') = \vec{0}
But this can't be correct, right? What am I doing wrong?
(c) I really wouldn't know how to start answering this question. I guess it falls off according to \frac{1}{r^2}, but I don't know how to calculate this.

I have my final exam tomorrow, any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
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You need to draw yourself a picture. Include in your picture the vector contributions dE to the electric field from two diametrically opposed points, one with charge +dq and the other with charge -dq. Note that the two arrows do not point in the same direction. So you need to find an expression for the x-component dEx and integrate that to find Ex. Then do a separate calculation to find dEy and from it Ey.

It would be a good idea to choose one of the axes, x or y, such that it goes through the boundaries where the distribution changes sign. This introduces some obvious symmetries about the principal planes, xy, yz and zx.
 
Thanks for your answer!

So, I tried to draw the contributions. Am I correct that inside the circle the dE due to the negative charge points toward the negative charge and dE due to the positive charge also points in that direction, thus doubling the field? Or is this too naive?

For a point on the z axis, dE due to the positive charge points in the +z direction and towards the negative charge in the xy plane and dE due to the negative charge points in the -z direction also towards the negative charge in the xy plane. Is this correct?

If I have the directions right I think I can calculate the integrals by myself.
Thanks again for your help!
 
rbnvrw said:
Thanks for your answer!
So, I tried to draw the contributions. Am I correct that inside the circle the dE due to the negative charge points toward the negative charge and dE due to the positive charge also points in that direction, thus doubling the field? Or is this too naive?
It is not too naive. If the x-axis is the line separating the positive and negative sides, the yz plane is a mirror plane. This means that the field cannot have a component perpendicular to the plane, i.e. in the x-direction.
For a point on the z axis, dE due to the positive charge points in the +z direction and towards the negative charge in the xy plane and dE due to the negative charge points in the -z direction also towards the negative charge in the xy plane. Is this correct?
Also correct. The xy plane is also a mirror plane, therefore there can be no z-component.
If I have the directions right I think I can calculate the integrals by myself.
Thanks again for your help!
Good luck with your integrals.
 

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