Electrical= Resistance and Energy

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The discussion revolves around a problem in electrical circuits, specifically focusing on resistance and energy transfer in a circuit involving a wire and a battery with internal resistance. Participants are examining how energy is converted from chemical to electrical form and how much of that energy is dissipated as thermal energy in the wire over a specified time period.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of current and energy transfer, with some questioning the treatment of the battery's internal resistance in the calculations. There is also a focus on the specific energy in the wire versus the total energy in the circuit.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning the assumptions made regarding the internal resistance of the battery. Some have proposed alternative energy values, indicating a lack of consensus on the correct answer.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available for discussion. The focus is on specific energy calculations over a set time period, and there is an emphasis on clarifying the role of different resistances in the circuit.

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A wire of resistance 9.0 is connected to a battery whose emf is 3.0 V and whose internal resistance is 1.0 .
(a) How much energy is transferred from chemical to electrical form in 4.0 min?
(b) How much energy appears in the wire as thermal energy in that time?

answer to a= 216 (that's correct)
for b, i got 189.629 (that one is wrong though)

For the work, i did: I= 3V/9 = .3333 A
Vtotal= 3V-IR
Vtotal= 3V-.333(1)
Vtotal= 2.6666
p=Vsquared/R
P=2.666 squared/9
P= .79011
.79011 (4) (60) = 189.62
 
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When calculating the current -- why would you ignore the resistance of the battery? (Normally you would, but in this case it is a fairly high component of the overall resistance of the circuit)
 
i would ignore it because its asking for the energy in the wire specifically..i believe anyway
 
if for a new answer, i got 194.4 joules..would that be correct?
 
is 194.4 the answer?
 

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