Electromagnetism, calculation of B

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The discussion revolves around calculating the force on a small circular conductor within a magnetized iron plate with a hole. The magnetization is described by a specific function, leading to bound charges on the plate's surfaces. The participant identifies that only the magnetic field component in the s direction contributes to the force, while the z component appears to not provide a net force due to symmetry. However, confusion arises as the z component is ultimately deemed responsible for the net force. The participant seeks clarification on this apparent contradiction in their understanding of the magnetic interactions.
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Homework Statement


A very big iron plate with the thickness 2h have, far from the plates edges, had a hole with the radius a drilled through it. With respect to the holes axis of symmetry the plate has a magnetization

\bar{M} = M_0 \frac{a}{s} \hat{s}

where s is the distance from the axis of symmetry.

In the hole, centered around the axis there is a small circular conductor with the current I with radius b << a.

Find the force on the conductor.

The Attempt at a Solution



I went ahead and found the bound charges which proved to be only on the top and bottom surfaces which proved to be

\bar{K} = M_0 \frac{a}{s} -\hat{\phi} for the upper surface and the same in the reversed direction for the lower.

Now with simply the right hand rule I concluded that the only B which will give a net force is the one in the s direction (giving a force in the z direction). The force from phi disappears in the cross product of biot savart, the force from z disappears due to symmetry. Then using with the knowledge that the only force that matters is the z component of the force:

\bar{F} = \Delta(\bar{m} \cdot \bar{B}) = \bar{m} \cdot \frac {d \bar{B}}{dz}\hat{z}

So I get that due to m being dotted with B only the z component survives of B, but I also concluded that the z component of B would not give a net force. Yet it ends up being the only one that gives a net force? There's something I'm misunderstanding 100% here.

and seems my tophats aren't working, but they're the unit vectors
 

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For hats use \hat instead of \^.
 
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dauto said:
for hats use \hat instead of \^.
That worked, thanks.
 
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