Find emf and the inner resistor of the battery

In summary, the problem asks for the emf and internal resistance when the resistor R1 is connected to a battery and the current is I1, and when resistor R2 is connected to the battery and the current is I2. Using the equation I = emf/(R+ r), we can solve for r and use it to find the emf.
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prishila
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Homework Statement


When the resistor is R1, in the circle there is the intensity I1 and when the resistor is R2, the intensity becomes I2.Find emf and the inner resistance.[/B]

Homework Equations


I=emf/R+r

The Attempt at a Solution


I1=efm/R1+r
I2=efm/R2+r
efm is equal
I1*(R1+r)=I2(R2+r)
r=(I2R2-I1R1)/(I1-I2)
And how can I find emf?
 
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Can I rephrase the problem statement as :
With a resistor R1 connected to a battery, the current is I1.
With a resistor R2 connected to a battery, the current is I2.
Find emf and the internal resistance.
Your equation requires brackets: ## I_i = emf / (R_i + r_{internal})##

So you have two equations with two unknowns: ## emf## and ##r_{internal}##. Can you write them down and post ?

And: the mentor will move this thread to introductory physics homework.

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  • #3
BvU said:
Can I rephrase the problem statement as :
With a resistor R1 connected to a battery, the current is I1.
With a resistor R2 connected to a battery, the current is I2.
Find emf and the internal resistance.
Your equation requires brackets: ## I_i = emf / (R_i + r_{internal})##

So you have two equations with two unknowns: ## emf## and ##r_{internal}##. Can you write them down and post ?

And: the mentor will move this thread to introductory physics homework.

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Here's what I did
efm=I1*(R1+r)=I2*(R2+r)
I1*(R1+r)=I2*(R2+r)
I1/I2=(R2+r)/(R1+r)
I1R1+I1r=R2I2+I2r
r(I1-I2)=R2I2-I1R1
r=(R2I2-I1R1)/(I1-I2)
I replaced R with what I found and it results
efm=I1I2(R2-R1)/(I1-I2)
Did I find efm and r correctly?
 
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prishila said:
efm=I1/(R1+r)=I2/(R2+r)
V=IR and not I/R.
 
  • #5
cnh1995 said:
V=IR and not I/R.
You're right. i corrected it
 
  • #6
prishila said:
I1/I2=(R2+r)/(R1+r)
I1R1+I1r=R2I2+I2r
r(I1-I2)=R2I2+I1R1
Check the 3rd equation.
 
  • #7
cnh1995 said:
Check the 3rd equation.
Corrected
 
  • #8
prishila said:
Here's what I did
efm=I1*(R1+r)=I2*(R2+r)
I1*(R1+r)=I2*(R2+r)
I1/I2=(R2+r)/(R1+r)
I1R1+I1r=R2I2+I2r
r(I1-I2)=R2I2-I1R1
r=(R2I2-I1R1)/(I1-I2)
I replaced R with what I found and it results
efm=I1I2(R2-R1)/(I1-I2)
Did I find efm and r correctly?
Looks correct!
 

Related to Find emf and the inner resistor of the battery

1. What is emf and how is it different from voltage?

Electromotive force (emf) is the potential difference between the positive and negative terminals of a battery or power source. It is essentially the driving force that pushes electrons through a circuit. Voltage, on the other hand, is the measure of electrical potential difference between two points in a circuit. While emf is the total potential difference in a circuit, voltage is the difference in potential between two specific points.

2. How do you measure the emf of a battery?

The emf of a battery can be measured using a voltmeter. The voltmeter is connected across the positive and negative terminals of the battery, and the reading on the voltmeter is the emf of the battery.

3. What factors influence the emf of a battery?

The emf of a battery can be influenced by various factors such as the type of battery, the materials used in the battery, the temperature, and the state of charge. For example, different types of batteries (e.g. alkaline, lead-acid, lithium-ion) will have different emf values due to their varying chemical compositions and internal workings.

4. How can you calculate the inner resistor of a battery?

The inner resistor of a battery can be calculated using Ohm's Law, which states that the resistance (R) of a circuit is equal to the voltage (V) divided by the current (I), or R = V/I. To calculate the inner resistor of a battery, the voltage and current of the circuit must be measured while the battery is in use, and then the equation can be used to solve for R.

5. Can the emf of a battery change over time?

Yes, the emf of a battery can change over time. As a battery discharges, its emf gradually decreases. This is because the chemical reactions within the battery are producing less energy as the reactants are used up. Factors such as temperature and age can also affect the emf of a battery.

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