Finding angular velocity after block is moved from middle to outside of disc

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The discussion focuses on calculating the angular velocity of a turntable after a block is moved from the center to the edge. The initial conditions include a 200 g turntable with a diameter of 42.0 cm rotating at 56.0 rpm and a 20.0 g block. The correct approach involves using the conservation of angular momentum rather than energy, leading to the conclusion that the final angular velocity is determined by the formula I(final) = Icm + Md^2. The final angular velocity is calculated to be significantly different from the initial assumption of 53.6 rpm.

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Homework Statement



A 200 g, 42.0-cm-diameter turntable rotates on frictionless bearings at 56.0 rpm. A 20.0 g block sits at the center of the turntable. A compressed spring shoots the block radically outward along a frictionless groove in the surface of the turntable.

What is the turntable's rotation angular velocity when the block reaches the outer edge?

Homework Equations



Ei=Ef
.5Iw^2 (initial) = .5Iw^2 (final)

For finding the final rotational inertia:
I(final) = Icm + Md^2 = .5MR^2 + md^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I believe that energy is conserved in this process so the equation above is valid. I calculated the final rotational inertia to be (1/2)*(0.2kg)*(0.21m)^2 + (0.02kg)*(0.21m)^2 = 0.005292

The initial energy is (.5)*(.5*0.2kg*0.21m^2)*(56rpm)^2 = 6.915

The final energy is (.5)*(0.005292)*wfinal^2

Solving for wfinal I get 53.6 rpm. I've done the calculations repeatedly and I can't come up with an alternate way of doing it but this answer is not correct. Any ideas?

Thank you so much in advance!
 
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hi snoworskate! :smile:
snoworskate said:
… I believe that energy is conserved in this process so the equation above is valid

I can't come up with an alternate way of doing it but this answer is not correct. Any ideas?

never never never use conservation of energy if you can use conservation of momentum (or angular momentum).

Momentum (or angular momentum) is always conserved (if there is zero net force or torque, as in this case).

Energy usually isn't conserved, and virtually never is in exam questions unless the question gives a pretty clear hint that it is. :wink:
 
Wow, that was MUCH easier. Thanks so much, I'll remember that!
 

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