Finding resulting pressure in a pipe when water is heated

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The discussion focuses on determining the resulting pressure in a pressurized pipe system when water is heated from 5 to 90 degrees Celsius. Participants emphasize the importance of understanding the volumetric thermal expansion coefficients of both water and steel, as well as the concept of bulk compressibility. The original poster seeks equations linking temperature and pressure, while also questioning whether pipe expansion should be considered. Clarification on these thermal properties is deemed essential for accurately solving the pressure change problem. Understanding these concepts will aid in calculating the pressure increase due to water expansion in a closed system.
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I work with pressurized pipe systems, and so I'm looking for some equation that link water temperature and pressure. In other words, when water in a closed system is heated, it expands, and so the static pressure increases. A typical problem will be determining the resulting pressure in a piece of pipe if the water in it is heated from say 5 to 90 degrees. Any ideas?
 
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TSN79 said:
I work with pressurized pipe systems, and so I'm looking for some equation that link water temperature and pressure. In other words, when water in a closed system is heated, it expands, and so the static pressure increases. A typical problem will be determining the resulting pressure in a piece of pipe if the water in it is heated from say 5 to 90 degrees. Any ideas?
Does the water fill the pipe, or is there gas also? Can the pipe expand also when heated, or is it just the water?
 
Chestermiller said:
Does the water fill the pipe, or is there gas also? Can the pipe expand also when heated, or is it just the water?

There is only water, usually at 1-5 bars (gauge pressure). We mostly deal with regular steal pipes (SCH 20, 30, 40) up to DN150 so I'm not sure if pipe expansion is a factor to consider?
 
TSN79 said:
There is only water, usually at 1-5 bars (gauge pressure). We mostly deal with regular steal pipes (SCH 20, 30, 40) up to DN150 so I'm not sure if pipe expansion is a factor to consider?
What is the coefficient of volumetric thermal expansion of steel, and what is the coefficient of volumetric thermal expansion of water?

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
What is the coefficient of volumetric thermal expansion of steel, and what is the coefficient of volumetric thermal expansion of water?

Chet

They can both be found in the link, but I'm still not sure how to apply these values.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_expansion#Volume_expansion
 
TSN79 said:
They can both be found in the link, but I'm still not sure how to apply these values.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_expansion#Volume_expansion
I'd like you to be able to figure this out by yourself. I'm prepared to keep you pointing in the right direction.

Please tell me you understanding of the physical meaning of "volumetric coefficient of thermal expansion" and "bulk compressibility"? Understanding of both of these quantities will be necessary to solve your problem. If you aren't sure of their meaning, please look them up, and then get back to me with your understanding. If you have any questions about them, I will be glad to answer them.

Chet
 
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