Finding the Charge for a Specific Electric Field at the Origin

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The discussion revolves around calculating the required charge q_2 to achieve a specific electric field at the origin due to two point charges. For part a, a negative charge q_2 is necessary to create a net electric field of 50.0 N/C in the +x-direction, while the calculations suggest q_2 should be approximately -7.99 nC. In part b, to achieve a net electric field of 50.0 N/C in the -x-direction, q_2 must be around -24.0 nC. Participants emphasize understanding the direction of electric fields and the influence of distance on field strength. The overall consensus is that the calculations align with the principles of electric fields and charge interactions.
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Homework Statement



A negative point charge q_1 = -4.00 nC is on the x-axis at x = 0.60 m. A second point charge q_2 is on the x-axis at x = -1.20 m.

a. What must the sign and magnitude of q_2 be for the net electric field at the origin to be 50.0 N/C in the +x-direction?

b. What must the sign and magnitude of q_2 be for the net electric field at the origin to be 50.0 N/C in the -x-direction?



Homework Equations



E = k*q/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution




a. The charge must be negative for subtraction to occur.

(-q2) O__<____. _>__O (-q1)
-----E2 = (-)------E1= (+)
negative diagram
. = field point (0,0)
O = particle
Arrow indicates field direction based on positive test charge

E1 = (8.988*10^9)*(-4.00*10^-9 C)/(.60 m)^2 = 99.8667 N/C (+)

99.8667 N/C + E2 = 50 N/C
E2 = -49.8667 C

q_2 = r^2*(49.86667)/(8.988*10^9) = -7.9893*10^-9 C ?




b. E1 = (8.988*10^9)*(-4.00*10^-9 C)/(.60 m)^2 = 99.8667 N/C (+)

E2 = -50 N/C – 99.8667 = -149.8667 C

q_2 = [(r^2)149.8667 N/C]/k = [(r^2)149.8667 N/C]/k = (1.2^2)*149.8667/(8.988*10^9) = -2.40*10^-8 C ?

Thanks.
 
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For a), why do you say "The charge must be negative for subtraction to occur"? E field points from + charge to - charge, and a) wants a net positive E field at the origin, doesn't it? Maybe I'm misreading something.
 
u should know that q1 and q2 exert on the origin ... so there is 2 forces what means there is 2 electric fields..
the net electric fields should be =50 and in the direction of the force exert by q2 on the origin...u have this condition and the equations ...u should solve it i think
tr to get the net force on the origin assuming theer is test point charge. then using the condition u have and the values u will have the answer.
 
Part a is correct.

You can look at this by proportions as a sanity check. q2 is twice as far away as q1, so if it had an equal charge, the strength of its field at the origin would be 1/4 as strong as q1's. Since the field was half as strong as it would be with q1 alone, the charge on q2 has to be about twice as strong as q1.
 
hey BobG is what i said true? just to check if i know the concept
 
moe_3_moe said:
hey BobG is what i said true? just to check if i know the concept

That's a tough question.

You could insert a test point of some mass (1kg to keep things simple), but you don't really need it. You'd be multiplying everything by your test mass, including your field at the origin.
 
Is my answer for Part B incorrect?
 
No, I think it's correct. I just didn't look at it. A quick check comparing the proportions looks right.
 
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