Finding the Rate of Change of Shadow: A Man 6 ft Tall

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The problem involves a man who is 6 feet tall walking away from a light source that is 15 feet above the ground. The discussion focuses on determining the rate of change of the man's shadow as he moves away from the light, specifically when he is 10 feet from the base of the light.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationships between the distances involved (the man to the light, the man to the tip of the shadow, and the shadow to the light) and how these relate to similar triangles. Questions arise about the meaning of variables and the correct application of differentiation.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the relationships between the variables and attempting to differentiate the equations derived from the similar triangles. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationships, but confusion remains about the differentiation process and the interpretation of results.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the definitions of the variables used in the equations, and participants are questioning the assumptions made about the relationships between the distances. The discussion reflects a mix of understanding and confusion about the mathematical approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement


A man 6 feet tall walks at a rate of 5 feet per second away from a light that is 15 feet above the ground. When he is 10 feet from the base of the light,

(A) at what rate is the tip of his shadow moving?
(B) at what rate is the length of his shadow changing?

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


This is what I have so far...
dr/dt = 5 ft/sec
dx/dt = unknown
h = 10

Since the man is walking away, his shadow is getting bigger (right?).

for (A) I guess I'm suppose to find dx/dt since I already know what dy/dt is. But my question is which equation will work between the y and the x?

for (B) same question but my friend told me that it was a proportion; as in x/y = 6/15 but I'm not sure if that's right - even if it is, I'm still lost...

Help?
 
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Could you maybe say what r,h,x and y mean to you? I can guess what some might mean, but it's still confusing.
 
Ok, I'm going to guess. r=dist from man to flagpole. x=dist from man to end of shadow. y=dist from end of shadow to flagpole. So y=x+r. h is the same thing as r, right? Then your friend is right 6/x=15/y. They are similar triangles. So 6*y=15*x and y=x+r. Can you differentiate that and reach a conclusion?
 
Sorry about the confusion, but thanks for your help! :)

I tried to differentiate it but I got the wrong answer (15 for part B)...

My differentiation looks something like this:
6y*dy/dt = 15x*dx/dt

Maybe I screwed up my differentiation...
 
Ok, so 6y=15x. How does differentiating that give you something like 6y*dy/dt?
 
Amadeus said:
for (B) same question but my friend told me that it was a proportion; as in x/y = 6/15 but I'm not sure if that's right - even if it is, I'm still lost...
similar triangles
 

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