[Heat and calorimeter] I can't get the correct answer

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Homework Statement


Hey there guys, first of all English is not my main language so it will be a little hard for me to say things in english. I am dutch native speaker so I will translate most of the things in english using google translator. I hope you guys are okay with that.

Task :
One wants the heat capacity of a calorimeter. It does so by one in the empty calorimeter, which has a temperature of 19.3 °C, 50 grams of benzene with a temperature of 13, 5 °C is added. This drops the temperature of the calorimeter to 15, 9 °C.
a)Calculate the value of the heat capacity of this calormeter.
b)Directly after this (the temperature of the calorimeter is still 15.9 °C), a Platinum bullet is added, which has a mass of 15.0 gram, in the calorimeter. This platinum ball has been kept in a glass flame beforehand; the temperature of the calorimeter runs to 23.7 °C . determine the temperature of the gas flame.

Okay, I had no problem answering a.
Now I did the same thing in b, but my answer does not match the one from my book. I tried to look if I missed any ##-## or ##+## sign , but still no luck. I even checked whether I filled the wrong number or not, and to me it seems that everything is correct. The Answer should be 604 °C , but I keep getting below 604 °C. I just want to know if I am doing something wrong or maybe the book answer could be wrong.

Homework Equations


##Q = m.c. \bigtriangleup T##
##Q = C .ΔT##

The Attempt at a Solution


I've uploaded 2 pictures of the calculations I did.
According to my book the answer I got for a is correct.
 
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  • Handwritten calorimeter calculation for part a: C = ?, Q opgenomen = Q afgegeven, C·ΔT = m·c·ΔT, then C(15,9 − 19,3) = 50 g × 1,71 × (15,9 °C − 13,5 °C), giving 3,4C = 85,5 × 2,4 = 205,2 and C = 60,29 J/°C.
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  • Handwritten calorimetry calculation on lined paper: C = 60.2 J/°C, then Q opgenomen = Q afgestaan, C·ΔT + m·c·ΔT = m·c·ΔT, and 60(23.7 − 15.9) + 50 × 1.71(23.7 − 15.9) = 15 × 0.13(T_lind − T_leguin), reducing to 468 + 666.9 = 47.7 − 2T_leguin, giving T_leguin = 543.5 °C.
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SuriAttacker said:

Homework Statement


Hey there guys, first of all English is not my main language so it will be a little hard for me to say things in english. I am dutch native speaker so I will translate most of the things in english using google translator. I hope you guys are okay with
Task :
One wants the heat capacity of a calorimeter. It does so by one in the empty calorimeter, which has a temperature of 19.3 °C, 50 grams of benzene with a temperature of 13, 5 °C is added. This drops the temperature of the calorimeter to 15, 9 °C.
a)Calculate the value of the heat capacity of this calormeter.
b)Directly after this (the temperature of the calorimeter is still 15.9 °C), a Platinum bullet is added, which has a mass of 15.0 gram, in the calorimeter. This platinum ball has been kept in a glass flame beforehand; the temperature of the calorimeter runs to 23.7 °C . determine the temperature of the gas flame.

Okay, I had no problem answering a.
Now I did the same thing in b, but my answer does not match the one from my book. I tried to look if I missed any ##-## or ##+## sign , but still no luck. I even checked whether I filled the wrong number or not, and to me it seems that everything is correct. The Answer should be 604 °C , but I keep getting below 604 °C. I just want to know if I am doing something wrong or maybe the book answer could be wrong.

Homework Equations


##Q = m.c. \bigtriangleup T##
##Q = C .ΔT##

The Attempt at a Solution


I've uploaded 2 pictures of the calculations I did.
According to my book the answer I got for a is correct.
I don't follow your algebra. Where did the 2 come from?
 
Chestermiller said:
I don't follow your algebra. Where did the 2 come from?
##15 × 0,13(Tend - Tbegin)##
Tend is given which = 23,7 °C
So it will be ##15 × 0,13(23,7 - Tbegin)##
##15 × 0,13 = 1,95##
##1,95(23,7 - Tbegin) = 46,22 - 1,95T##
 
Chestermiller said:
(468+667)/(1.95 )+ 23.7= ??
Well the answer = 605,7 , but I'm still confused why you did ##+ 23,7## and not ##+46,22##
 
I'm on my iPhone now, so it's hard to do equations. I'll get back with you later when I have my computer. But basically, the heat gained by the benzene and calorimeter is equal to the heat list by the bullet.