Help me proving this Kinetic Friction Coefficient

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving kinetic friction, where a block of mass M is on a level table and connected to a mass m via a pulley. The goal is to derive an expression for the kinetic friction coefficient.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the kinetic friction coefficient but arrives at a different expression than expected. They question what they might be missing in their reasoning.
  • Some participants question the assumption that mass M is significantly larger than mass m, suggesting that this could simplify the expression.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem and discussing the implications of the mass relationship on the derived expressions. There is no explicit consensus, but some guidance regarding the assumptions is being considered.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the condition where M is much greater than m, which may affect the derivation of the kinetic friction coefficient. The original poster's expression and the expected expression are both under discussion.

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Consider the system: A block of mass M is placed on a level table and connected to a mass m by a light string running through a pulley. If mass m is released, it will start to fall and the wooden block will be pulled across the table.

Prove that the kinetic friction coefficient can be given by the expression: μ = m/M - a/g

I have tried, but could only get this expression: μ= [mg - (M+m)a]/Mg . I can't get to the one outlined in the question. What am I missing?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Is there any condition given that M >> m . since in that case (1 + m/M) will tend to 1, and your expression will reduce to the required expression. I am also getting the same answer as you got.
 
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