Engineering Help with finding the power in this circuit

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The discussion revolves around determining the validity of a circuit and calculating the total power developed. The user is confused about applying Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL) and Kirchhoff's Voltage Law (KVL) due to the lack of resistances and the behavior of voltages at the nodes. Initial calculations yielded inconsistent results, leading to uncertainty about the circuit's validity. After further analysis, the user concludes that summing the potential changes around the outer loop indicates the circuit is invalid. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly applying KVL to assess circuit behavior.
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http://www.chegg.com/homework-help/questions-and-answers/interconnection-fig-p25-valid-find-total-power-developed-circuit-interconnection-valid-exp-q22345911
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It asks if the circuit is valid, which I assume it is.
It asks for the power developed[/B]

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I tried to do KCL in the 4 loops, but i am confused with the middle node. I assume that the 10v will have a current of 1, for the middle node to equal 0. I did a KCL in the upper left loop and got -13 and on the upper right loop I got -17. I am not sure what i am doing wrong to get the power developed. the lower loops confuse me. Help!
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Check KVL around the outside path.
 
gneill said:
Check KVL around the outside path.

but there is no resistances, and V=iR? The voltage outside the path do not equate to 0, so is the circuit invalid?
 
edgarpokemon said:
but there is no resistances, and V=iR? The voltage outside the path do not equate to 0, so is the circuit invalid?
Sum the potential changes around the closed loop and draw your own conclusion :wink:

Edit: I should have been more clear. Sum the potential changes around the outer loop.
 
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gneill said:
Sum the potential changes around the closed loop and draw your own conclusion :wink:
aaa so starting from the lower right node, it would be 8+6-4-12=-2, so invalid?
 
edgarpokemon said:
aaa so starting from the lower right node, it would be 8+6-4-12=-2, so invalid?
Right.
 

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