How can I recreate this pressure boiling experiment

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The discussion revolves around recreating a vacuum setup at home, with a focus on safety and the necessary components. Concerns about safety risks, particularly the potential for implosion, are raised, emphasizing that a standard jar may not be suitable for vacuum use. Participants mention that the water pump mechanism shown in the video creates a mild vacuum, which minimizes the implosion risk. The conversation also touches on the specific tubing needed for the project and the idea of adding a second chamber for collecting evaporated water. A comparison is made to using a syringe to demonstrate the boiling effect under reduced pressure. Overall, the thread highlights the importance of understanding vacuum dynamics and safety precautions when attempting such projects.
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Hi all,

I was just wondering how I could recreate this at home
What parts do I need?

Thanks,
Harry
 
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I'm afraid if you have to ask, you don't have the expertise to do this safely. Sorry.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
I'm afraid if you have to ask, you don't have the expertise to do this safely. Sorry.

What are the safety risks?
 
cazzuey said:
What are the safety risks?
Well normally pulling a vacuum involves an implosion risk. That jar is not a good vacuum enclosure. But the simple water pump mechanism being used in the video pulls a pretty mild vacuum, so the implosion risk is probably minimal.

Get the water pump thing, and use epoxy to fasten a nipple onto a jar lid, I guess. I'm surprised that it takes such a soft vacuum to cause the water to evaporate like that.
 
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berkeman said:
Get the water pump thing, and use epoxy to fasten a nipple onto a jar lid, I guess. I'm surprised that it takes such a soft vacuum to cause the water to evaporate like that.

I was to, but some intelligent folks on here cleared it up for me; the vacuum caused by the aspirator is only limited by the vapour pressure of water. Basically, I need to get the pressure down to about 1kPa at room temp for evaporation to occur.

I was mostly wondering what the tubing he uses is called so I could get my hands on some. Also, I plan to add another chamber where the evaporated water can collect.

Thanks again all
 
Why did you create a second thread on the same subject? That is against the PF rules...
 
berkeman said:
Why did you create a second thread on the same subject? That is against the PF rules...

I asked how I could recreate it here - In the other one I asked about how the pump works. Sorry if I broke the rules. You can ban me or whatever the punishment is. Thanks for the help.
 
Take a syringe - the larger, the better. Suck a bit of hot water inside, plug the hole (even with a finger), pull the piston. Water will boil instantly, even if for a very short period of time. That's exactly the same effect.
 
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Borek said:
Take a syringe - the larger, the better. Suck a bit of hot water inside, plug the hole (even with a finger), pull the piston. Water will boil instantly, even if for a very short period of time. That's exactly the same effect.

I need to do it on a bigger scale like in the video.
 
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berkeman said:
But the simple water pump mechanism being used in the video pulls a pretty mild vacuum, so the implosion risk is probably minimal.
A water pump can get you near as low as the vapour pressure of water which is about 20 mbar while the outside pressure on the vessel is 1 bar.
Hence the pressure difference acting on the vessel is nearly 1 bar which is all what counts in terms of implosion risk. Even with a high vacuum pump it won't be higher.
 
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DrDu said:
A water pump can get you near as low as the vapour pressure of water which is about 20 mbar while the outside pressure on the vessel is 1 bar.
Hence the pressure difference acting on the vessel is nearly 1 bar which is all what counts in terms of implosion risk. Even with a high vacuum pump it won't be higher.
In that case, this thread is closed.
 
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