How Do Symmetrical Charges Affect Net Electric Field in a Circle?

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The discussion centers on the effects of symmetrical charges on the net electric field in a circular arrangement. It is established that the net electric field in the x-direction cancels out due to symmetry, while the treatment of the y-axis requires careful consideration of angles. Participants emphasize the importance of not making assumptions and instead using geometric reasoning to determine the angles involved. The net electric field is described as the sum of the fields from multiple charges, with the conclusion that the presence of a 2q charge can be treated as two separate q charges. Ultimately, the net electric field is influenced by the arrangement of these charges, particularly in relation to the y-axis.
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5 positive point charges are uniformly distributed and fixed around a circle of radius R. Determine the net electric field at the centre of the circle in terms of q and R.
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In this case, I know there won't be any net efield in the x direction because it cancels out with each other.
The problem is dealing with the y axis. Am I supposed to presume an angle for each of them or what should I do instead?

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Are you saying that you don't know enough Geometry to calculate the angles you need to know? What is 360/5?
 
I strongly suggest that you stop and think a bit before charging into compute angles. What would the field be if you replaced the 2q charge with a q charge?
 
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Orodruin said:
I strongly suggest that you stop and think a bit before charging into compute angles. What would the field be if you replaced the 2q charge with a q charge?
There won't be any net charge. Since it is 2q, I can assume the net efield is only a +q charge lying on the y axis?
 
jisbon said:
There won't be any net charge.
I hope you mean net electric field, there certainly is a net charge and in any point other than the origin you cannot apply the symmetry argument.

jisbon said:
Since it is 2q, I can assume the net efield is only a +q charge lying on the y axis?
You should not assume anythimg, you should argue for your conclusion. But yes, the electric field is additive. The total electric field will be that of five symmetrically positioned q charges and an additional q charge on the y axis.
 
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Orodruin said:
I hope you mean net electric field, there certainly is a net charge and in any point other than the origin you cannot apply the symmetry argument.You should not assume anythimg, you should argue for your conclusion. But yes, the electric field is additive. The total electric field will be that of five symmetrically positioned q charges and an additional q charge on the y axis.
Yep sorry I meant net efield. If there are 5 q charges positioned as shown, there won't be any net efield because the y and x-axis pretty much cancels out one another. So I can treat the 2q as two separate q charges, then conclude that the net efield is only due to a q charge on the y axis?
 
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