How Do You Calculate Theoretical Reaction Time in Enzyme Experiments?

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The discussion centers on conducting an experiment with catalase and hydrogen peroxide to measure oxygen production, focusing on variables like enzyme concentration and temperature. The participant seeks to calculate the theoretical time for the reaction, which is complex due to the nature of second-order reactions and the need for calculus. There is a concern about the high concentrations of catalase used, as it may not be pure and could affect calculations. The participant has calculated the molarity of hydrogen peroxide but is uncertain about how to determine the molarity of catalase and its role in the reaction. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding reaction kinetics and proper concentration calculations for accurate results.
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I'm doing an EEI on enzymes. I'm using catalase and hydrogen peroxide to produce oxygen. The oxygen is then collected into a measuring cylinder. My three variables are the concentration of catalase, concentration of hydrogen peroxide and the temperature of both. Increasing the concentration of catalase is supposed to speed up the reaction, which it has, but it is meant keep the amount of oxygen produced the same, which it also has. I have calculated the theoretical yield and our actual yield is really close. My question is, how do you calculate the theoretical time the reaction should occur for. I asked my teacher if there is a way to do it and he said that there is however it is beyond a high school kid. I get A+'s in chemistry and top the class, so I would really like to impress him by being able to calculate the theoretical time of each reaction.
Catalase concentrations are 5%, 10%...30% with 1% hydrogen peroxide, both kept at 40°C.

Thanks for your help
 
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thestudent101 said:
Catalase concentrations are 5%, 10%...30%

Really that high?

In general you should start from rate laws (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rate_law), integrate them to find out amount of hydrogen peroxide consumed as a function of time, then calculate how long it will take consume all hydrogen peroxide present.

You will find that this time theoretically equals infinity. In reality observable reaction goes till the concentration of the hydrogen peroxide falls below some level, but what "some" means in this context depends on many things like concentration, oxygen solubility in the solution, mixing and so on.

It will be much easier to calculate time required to reach 99% or even 99.9%.
 
Thankyou for replying and sorry for not replying back quickly. Anyway about the catalase concentrations. Do you think that they are too high? They have been mixed with 1% hydrogen peroxide. And the mean time for each set of experiments has decreased in a fairly linear fashion, starting from 11.3s with 5% and going down to 3.3s with 30%.

I've had a look at the wikipedia site you suggested. I sort of understand it. From what I can gather this is a second order reaction? But I'm really not sure how to actually calculate anything.
 
thestudent101 said:
Anyway about the catalase concentrations. Do you think that they are too high?

I am sure they are. What you have listed is mots likely result of dilution calculation that assumes you used a pure catalase. That's not the case. You have not used a pure catalase, but an already diluted solution. To calculate the real concentration you should know initial concentration and calculate its concentration after dilution.

I've had a look at the wikipedia site you suggested. I sort of understand it. From what I can gather this is a second order reaction? But I'm really not sure how to actually calculate anything.

Yes, this is a second order reaction. Unfortunately, to calculate anything you would need at least some basic knowledge of calculus (unless you will be able to find the integrated forms of equations).
 
I watched a youtube video on rate laws, it helped a fair bit. What I have done so at the moment is calculated the molarity of hydrogen peroxide used with each set of tests. The first with 1.66mL (1%) is 4.18x10^-3 mol, the second using 3.33mL (2%) is 8.4x10^-3 and so on...But I'm unsure on how to calculate the catalase. My teacher said that it was a bottle of pure catalase. Why do you think its been pre-diluted? Anyway, if it was originally 100% concentration, and I calculated the molarity of the catalase, where does that come into the equation, because it acts as a catalyst only?
For the equation r=k(A)^m*(b)^n
Is the b value the molarity of catalase?
And I'm also unsure on how to calculate the r value. For 1% hydrogen peroxide it took on average 11.3s before the reaction appeared to have stopped. Also I do have basic knowledge with calculus, I also study maths B and C. Thanks again.
 
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