How Do You Correctly Calculate the Electric Field Under a Thundercloud?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field beneath a thundercloud, modeled as a vertical dipole with positive and negative charges at specified heights. Participants are exploring the implications of charge placement and field direction in relation to the calculated electric field strength at ground level.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are discussing the method of calculating the electric field by summing contributions from each charge and questioning the correctness of the signs and magnitudes in the calculations. There is also a focus on the direction of the electric field produced by positive and negative charges.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the directionality of electric fields due to different charges. There is an acknowledgment of potential sign errors in calculations, but the original poster emphasizes issues with magnitude rather than direction.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available for resolving the electric field calculation. Specific values and assumptions about charge placement are being scrutinized.

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The electrical system of typical thundercloud can be represented by a vertical dipole consisting of a charge of +40C at a height of 10km and a charge of -40C vertically below it at a height of 6km. What is the electric field at the ground directly beneath the thundercloud.

I am simply adding the the field from each point charge at the ground together but get the wrong answer...any suggestions?

Eground= 40/4*∏*ε0(1/10000^2 - 1/6000^2)

Answer should be 12.8KV/m upwards
 
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At the point on the ground, where you are calculating the E field:
What is the direction of the E field due to a positive charge which is above?

What is the direction of the E field due to a negative charge which is above?
 
+ve into ground, -ve charge field up?
 
Yes. Now look at the signs you have in your calculation.
 
A sign error isn't my problem - it's the magnitude I get wrong...
 
nathangrand said:
Eground= 40/4*∏*ε0(1/10000^2 - 1/6000^2)

Place proper parentheses so the π and ε0 are in the denominator.
 

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