How Do You Derive the Cartesian Equation from a Vector Function?

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The discussion revolves around deriving the Cartesian equation from a given vector function in the context of vector calculus. The original poster presents a position vector of a moving particle and seeks assistance in finding the Cartesian equation of its path.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the x and y components of the vector function, with some attempting to express the components in terms of hyperbolic functions. Others question the correctness of the original poster's understanding of the components and their equality.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations of the vector function, with some participants providing insights into the hyperbolic identities that relate the x and y components. Guidance has been offered on how to manipulate the equations to isolate variables, though no consensus has been reached on the best approach.

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Participants note the challenge of isolating the variable t from the equations, which is central to deriving the Cartesian equation. There is also mention of the original poster's struggle with the setup of the problem.

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i having so much trouble with this vector calculus question, someone please help.

At time t, a moving particle has position r(t)=((e^t) + (e^-t))/2 i + ((e^t) - (e^-t))/2 j.

a) find the cartesian equation of the path

I know all you have to do is let the i component to equal x(t) and then make t the subject, and then with the j component let it equal y and sub t into y. but i can't get t to be the subject in the equation.
someone please give it a go
 
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i don't get it how can you get that equation from the original equation?
 
This is because the coeffcient of the x-coordinate and the y-coordinate is the same: \left( {\frac{{e^t + e^{ - t} }}{2}} \right)
 
Oerg said:
This is because the coeffcient of the x-coordinate and the y-coordinate is the same: \left( {\frac{{e^t + e^{ - t} }}{2}} \right)

No, that's incorrect (or the original poster has edited the post since you wrote this). The vector equation is
\left(\frac{e^t+ e^{-t}}{2}\right)i+ \left(\frac{e^t- e^{-t}}{2}\right)j

The x and y components are not equal. It should be easy to see that the x-component is cosh(t) and the y-component is sinh(t). Now, use an identity: cosh2(t)- sinh2(t)= 1 so that x2-y2= 1, a hyperbola (in fact, that's why those called "hyperbolic" functions!).

If was not "easy" :biggrin: to see that \frac{e^t+ e^{-t}}{2}= cosh(t) and that \frac{e^t- e^{-t}}{2}= sinh(t), then it is a little harder: (et+ e-t)2= e2t+ 2+ e-2t. (You see how the et and e-t cancel when you mutiply them?)
Similarly, (et-et)2= e2t+ 2+ e-2t. Subtract those and you just get 4 (which is why you need "2" in the denominators).
 
Halls already knew where this was going; that's how he figured out to do it that way. :smile:

If I had not already known where this was going, the first thing I would do is to recognize that you have two things of this form:

x = A + B
y = A - B

(for your actual problem, A = exp(t) / 2 and B = exp(-t) / 2)

You might recognize that it's easy to isolate A and B by adding and subtracting the equations respectively. If not, you might recognize this is a system of two linear equations in A and B, which can then be solved by A and B.

So, in any case, the first thing I would have done is exactly that:

x + y = 2A
x - y = 2B

so:

exp(t) = x + y
exp(-t) = x - y

And then, it should be clear how to get rid of t!
 

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