How Does a Spring Affect the Motion of a Rocket?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a weather rocket and a vertical spring. The problem explores the relationship between the forces acting on the rocket, the compression of the spring, and the resulting motion of the rocket when thrust is applied.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to relate the gravitational potential energy of the rocket to the spring's potential energy to find the compression of the spring. Some participants question the validity of this approach, suggesting that the net force acting on the rocket must be considered.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights into the forces at play and the need to consider the net force being zero when the rocket is at rest. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the energy relationships and the application of Newton's laws.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem involves multiple parts, including the initial compression of the spring and the rocket's speed after ignition. There is an emphasis on understanding the underlying concepts rather than simply calculating values.

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Homework Statement


A 10.1 kg weather rocket generates a thrust of 193.0 N. The rocket, pointing upward, is clamped to the top of a vertical spring. The bottom of the spring, whose spring constant is 415.0 N/m, is anchored to the ground.
(a) Initially, before the engine is ignited, the rocket sits at rest on top of the spring. How much is the spring compressed?
(b) After the engine is ignited, what is the rocket's speed when the spring has stretched 12.5 cm past its natural length?
(c)What would be the rockets speed after traveling the distance if it weren't tied down to the spring?


Homework Equations


Usp= 1/2*k*x^2



The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not too sure how to even begin thinking about this question.
For (a) Am I right in the assumption that the weight of the rocket is directly related to the compression of the spring, thus the gravitational potential energy of the rocket should be equal to the spring energy?
I tried mgh=1/2kx^2, where h=x. From this I got x=2(mg)/k, which is not the right answer.
How would I break down this question? Any help is appreciated!
 
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Hi ho!
for a) Your assumption about equal potential energies is simply wrong (you can always add a constant to potential energy). What matters is difference in potential energy, not a numerical value at certain point in space. Since it is said that rocket is at rest, you can be sure that the total force acting on it is zero. There are only two forces in this situation i can think of. One of them depends on spring compression.
b) here you can either solve Newton's equation of motion, or use work energy theorem.
c) same as b)
 
I'm not sure what you mean when you say two forces
One is the weight of the rocket, but the spring compression is the energy stored in the spring that will get converted to the kinetic energy of rocket, right? How do i relate the fnet=0 to the spring compression?
 
Can someone please help me with this question? Really having trouble understanding the concepts.
Thanks!
 

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