If a 4th dimension existed would universe expand anisotropically?

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of describing the universe using internal and exterior geometry, and the potential implications of a 4th timelike dimension. However, the idea of an anisotropic accelerated expansion is deemed mathematically incorrect and personal speculations cannot be discussed.
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Suppose the universe were described by internal geometry by a ball, i.e. the metric where :

$$diag(1,r^2,r^2 sin(\theta)^2)$$

Now if we go to exterior geometry and suppose there existed a 4th timelike dimension the manifold were for example modelized by :

$$\left(\begin{array}{c} x=r\sin(\theta)\cos(\phi)\\y=r\sin(\theta)sin(\phi)\\z=r\cos(\theta)ch(\alpha)\\w=r\cos(\theta)sh(\alpha)\end{array}\right)$$

From the 4th dimension we could extract the time by assuming isotropy : ##ct=r sh(\alpha)\Rightarrow z=r\sqrt{\frac{c^2t^2}{r^2}+1}\cos{\theta}##

However this becomes mathematically incorrect since now ##\alpha## is a function of r and has to be considered so to compute the metric out of the vector field, but could this give an idea on how behaves the universe at large scale, namely an anisotropic accelerated expansion ?
 
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I am not sure you mean (3+1) space with space z and time w is abnormal or (4+1) space with 4 x,y,z,w are all space components of
[tex]dl^2=dx^2+dy^2+dz^2-dw^2[/tex]?
Show us metric of your world for confirmation.
 
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jk22 said:
suppose there existed a 4th timelike dimension

We cannot discuss personal speculations here.

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1. What is a 4th dimension?

The 4th dimension is a theoretical concept in physics that extends beyond the three dimensions of length, width, and height that we are familiar with. It is often represented as time, but in this context, it refers to a spatial dimension that is perpendicular to the three dimensions we experience.

2. How would a 4th dimension affect the expansion of the universe?

If a 4th dimension existed, it would likely have a significant impact on the expansion of the universe. It could potentially cause the universe to expand anisotropically, meaning that the expansion would not be uniform in all directions.

3. What evidence do we have for the existence of a 4th dimension?

Currently, there is no direct evidence for the existence of a 4th dimension. However, some theories in physics, such as string theory, suggest the possibility of multiple dimensions. Additionally, the concept of a 4th dimension has been explored in mathematics and philosophy for centuries.

4. How would a 4th dimension impact our understanding of the universe?

If a 4th dimension existed, it would fundamentally change our understanding of the universe. It would require us to rethink our current models and theories about the universe's structure and evolution. It could also potentially provide explanations for phenomena that cannot be explained by our current understanding of three-dimensional space.

5. Can we ever prove the existence of a 4th dimension?

It is challenging to prove the existence of a 4th dimension, as it is a theoretical concept that is difficult to observe directly. However, advancements in technology and further research in physics may one day provide evidence for its existence. Until then, the existence of a 4th dimension remains a fascinating and intriguing topic for scientists to explore.

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