Impulse: Finding the average force

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To find the average force exerted by the axe on the log, first calculate the change in momentum of the axe, which comes to rest from an initial velocity of 60 m/sec. The average speed during the penetration can be determined as half of the initial speed, resulting in an average speed of 30 m/sec. The time taken for the axe to stop can then be calculated using the distance of penetration (0.02 m) divided by this average speed, yielding a time of approximately 0.00067 seconds. Finally, the average force can be calculated using the impulse-momentum theorem, which relates the change in momentum to the average force and the time of contact. This approach simplifies the problem by focusing solely on the axe's momentum change rather than the log's mass.
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Homework Statement



The 2kg head of an axe is moving at 60m/sec when it strikes a log. If the blade of an axe penetrates a 20mm into the log, find the average force it exerts.

m= 2kg
V= 60m/sec
d= 20mm or 0.02m

Homework Equations



F= pFINAL - pINITIAL / time
t= d/v

The Attempt at a Solution



m1v1 = axe
m2v2 = log

t = 0.02/60
= 3.33sec
F = [m1v1 + m2v2] - [m1v1 + m2v2] / time
= [(2kg)(60m/sec)+(m2)(0)] - [(2kg)(m2)(0)] / time
= (120 kg.m/sec + m2) / time ?

^ considering the log has 0 velocity? but has no mass given?

I solved for the time then used the impulse formula pFINAL-pINITIAL/time but since there is no mass of the log given I'm baffled because I feel like I'm using the wrong equations. I was lost if I should find the momentum or impulse since the axe makes contact with the log. I'm really bad at physics, your help is so appreciated :(
 
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impstudies said:
t = 0.02/60
= 3.33sec
Don't assume the speed is constant. The axe comes to rest. (What's the average speed of the axe?)
F = [m1v1 + m2v2] - [m1v1 + m2v2] / time
= [(2kg)(60m/sec)+(m2)(0)] - [(2kg)(m2)(0)] / time
= (120 kg.m/sec + m2) / time ?

^ considering the log has 0 velocity? but has no mass given?
Forget about the log. Just analyze the change in momentum of the axe.
 
i assume the speed here is the velocity?
the axe comes to rest so its Vf = 0, with Vi = 60 m/sec

= vf-vi
= 0-60
= -60m/sec

is that right?
 
impstudies said:
i assume the speed here is the velocity?
the axe comes to rest so its Vf = 0, with Vi = 60 m/sec

= vf-vi
= 0-60
= -60m/sec

is that right?
You found the change in speed. If you want to calculate the time for the axe to come to rest, you need the average speed.
 
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