MHB Integration using Beta and Gamma Functions

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the integral $\int_{0}^{1} \frac{\ln(1+x)}{1+x^2} \,dx$ using beta and gamma functions. Participants explore the relationship between the beta function and logarithmic integrals, noting that differentiation can help incorporate logarithmic terms into beta function evaluations. They also discuss the digamma function's role in differentiating the gamma function and how to compute its values, particularly $\psi(1/2)$ and $\psi(1)$. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the complexity of the integral and the challenges in finding a definitive solution, with one participant suggesting a final result of $-2\ln(2)\pi$.
  • #91
ZaidAlyafey said:
Okay , here is the hint

Only expand $\log^2(1-x)$ as series. Leave $\log^2(x)$ as it is.

You will see later , why!

Hello ZaidAlyafey,

Lets see what we got here:

$$\log^2(1-x) = (-2)\cdot\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\frac{(H_k)(x)^{(k+1)}}{(k+1)}$$

$$\log^2(1-x)\log^2(x) = (2)\cdot\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{(H_k)\log^2(x)(x)^{(k+1)}}{(k+1)}$$

$$\int_{0}^{1}\log^2(1-x)\log^2(x) \,dx = (2)\cdot \int_{0}^{1} \sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{(H_k)\log^2(x)(x)^{(k+1)}}{(k+1)} \,dx$$

$$\int_{0}^{1} \frac{(H_k)\log^2(x)(x)^{(k+1)}}{(k+1)} \,dx = \frac{H_k}{k+1}\cdot \int_{0}^{1} \log^2(x)\cdot (x)^{k+1} \,dx$$

The integral is the tough part.

It is very well displayed by the second partial derivative of the beta function but I yet have no clue how to compute trigammas etc.

Through integration by parts I was able to do it.

$$\int_{0}^{1} \frac{(H_k)\log^2(x)(x)^{(k+1)}}{(k+1)} \,dx = \frac{H_k}{k+1}\cdot \int_{0}^{1} \log^2(x)\cdot (x)^{k+1} \,dx = \frac{H_k}{k+1} \cdot \frac{(2)}{(k+2)^3}$$

So we have,

$$I = \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\frac{2H_k}{(k+1)(k+2)^3}$$

What is left is, is to find this difficult sum. It is tough because of the harmonic number...

I'm not sure...

$H_k = \sum_{n=1}^{k} \frac{1}{n}$

This is quite difficult =)
 
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  • #92
Olok said:
$$I = \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\frac{2H_k}{(k+1)(k+2)^3}$$

Very good , nice work! Now we should use partial fractions , right ?
 
  • #93
ZaidAlyafey said:
Very good , nice work! Now we should use partial fractions , right ?

That was one of my attempts, but it doesn't work, I'll try again here:

The harmonic number is not a constant. Partial fraction requires the numerator to be a constant! Ah - now I see why I was failing miserably.
 
  • #94
And you may use the following

$$\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_n}{n^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{q-2}\zeta(k+1)\zeta(q-k)$$

If looking for a proof .
 
  • #95
ZaidAlyafey said:
And you may use the following

$$\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_n}{n^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{q-2}\zeta(k+1)\zeta(q-k)$$

If looking for a proof .

Thanks for the hint, but I don't think it will apply in this case.

The denominator is not one variables, it is a product of two binomials, which the theorem you stated does not apply for.
 
  • #96
Olok said:
Thanks for the hint, but I don't think it will apply in this case.

The denominator is not one variables, it is a product of two binomials, which the theorem you stated does not apply for.

That's why you have to use partial fractions.
 
  • #97
ZaidAlyafey said:
That's why you have to use partial fractions.

We had the following,

$$\frac{2H_k}{(k+1)(k+2)^3}$$

$$\frac{A}{k+1}+\frac{B}{k+2}+\frac{C}{(k+2)^2}+\frac{D}{(k+2)^3} = \frac{2H_k}{(k+1)(k+2)^3}$$

$$(A)(k+2)^3 + (k+1)(k+2)^2(B) + (k+1)(k+2)(C) + (k+1)(D) = 2H_k$$

I was thinking $k=-1$ but I am not sure if $H_{-1}$ exists.
 
  • #98
Olok said:
We had the following,

$$\frac{2H_k}{(k+1)(k+2)^3}$$

$$\frac{A}{k+1}+\frac{B}{k+2}+\frac{C}{(k+2)^2}+\frac{D}{(k+2)^3} = \frac{2H_k}{(k+1)(k+2)^3}$$

$$(A)(k+2)^3 + (k+1)(k+2)^2(B) + (k+1)(k+2)(C) + (k+1)(D) = 2H_k$$

I was thinking $k=-1$ but I am not sure if $H_{-1}$ exists.

Ignore $H_k$ , just find the partial fraction decomposition for

$$\frac{1}{(k+1)(k+2)^3}$$
 
  • #99
ZaidAlyafey said:
Ignore $H_k$ , just find the partial fraction decomposition for

$$\frac{1}{(k+1)(k+2)^3}$$

That is simply, (skipping steps):

$$\frac{1}{(k+1)(k+2)^3} = -(\frac{1}{k+2} + \frac{1}{(k+2)^2} + \frac{1}{(k+2)^3}) + \frac{1}{k+1}$$

$$\frac{2H_k}{(k+1)(k+2)^3} = \frac{-2H_k}{k+2} - \frac{2H_k}{(k+2)^2} - \frac{2H_k}{(k+2)^3} + \frac{2H_k}{k+1}$$

But the theorem you stated still won't apply as the denominator is still a binomial...
 
  • #100
Hint

$$\sum_{k=1}^\infty \frac{H_k}{(k+1)^q} = \sum_{n=2}^\infty \frac{H_{n-1}}{n^q} = \sum_{n=2}^\infty \frac{H_n -\frac{1}{n}}{n^q} = \sum_{n=2}^\infty\frac{H_n}{n^{q+1}}-(\zeta(q+1)-1)$$

You can use the same concept to find

$$\sum_{k=1}^\infty \frac{H_k}{(k+2)^q}$$
 
  • #101
ZaidAlyafey said:
Hint

$$\sum_{k=1}^\infty \frac{H_k}{(k+1)^q} = \sum_{n=2}^\infty \frac{H_{n-1}}{n^q} = \sum_{n=2}^\infty \frac{H_n -\frac{1}{n}}{n^q} = \sum_{n=2}^\infty\frac{H_n}{n^{q+1}}-(\zeta(q+1)-1)$$

You can use the same concept to find

$$\sum_{k=1}^\infty \frac{H_k}{(k+2)^q}$$

It follows that:

$H_k = H_{k-1} + \frac{1}{k}$

From the original hint:

$$\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_n}{n^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{q-2}\zeta(k+1)\zeta(q-k)$$

$H_{k-1} = H_k + \frac{1}{k}

$$\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_n}{n^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{q-2}\zeta(k+1)\zeta(q-k)$$

$$= \sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_{n-1} + \frac{1}{n}}{n^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{q-2}\zeta(k+1)\zeta(q-k)$$

Let n = k-1

$$= \sum_{k=2}^\infty \frac{H_{k} + \frac{1}{k+1}}{(1+k)^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{z=1}^{q-2}\zeta(z+1)\zeta(q-z)$$

Is this the derivation? and then we split up the numerator to get the other formula.

And I suppose we use the same method from $k+2$

By the way, you sent me the URL:
proof .

It didnt show up. I'll try to come up with my own proof (so don't show a link yet!)

Thanks =)
 
  • #102
Olok said:
It follows that:

$H_k = H_{k-1} + \frac{1}{k}$

From the original hint:

$$\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_n}{n^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{q-2}\zeta(k+1)\zeta(q-k)$$

$H_{k-1} = H_k + \frac{1}{k}

$$\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_n}{n^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{q-2}\zeta(k+1)\zeta(q-k)$$

$$= \sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_{n-1} + \frac{1}{n}}{n^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{q-2}\zeta(k+1)\zeta(q-k)$$

Let n = k-1

$$= \sum_{k=2}^\infty \frac{H_{k} + \frac{1}{k+1}}{(1+k)^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{z=1}^{q-2}\zeta(z+1)\zeta(q-z)$$

Is this the derivation? and then we split up the numerator to get the other formula.

And I suppose we use the same method from $k+2$

By the way, you sent me the URL:
proof .

It didnt show up. I'll try to come up with my own proof (so don't show a link yet!)

Thanks =)

I cannot follow , could you rewrite that!
 
  • #103
ZaidAlyafey said:
I cannot follow , could you rewrite that!

It follows that:

$H_k = H_{k-1} + \frac{1}{k}$

From the original hint:

$$\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_n}{n^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{q-2}\zeta(k+1)\zeta(q-k)$$

$H_{k-1} = H_k + \frac{1}{k}$

$$\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_n}{n^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{q-2}\zeta(k+1)\zeta(q-k)$$

$$= \sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_{n-1} + \frac{1}{n}}{n^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{q-2}\zeta(k+1)\zeta(q-k)$$

Let n = k-1

$$= \sum_{k=2}^\infty \frac{H_{k} + \frac{1}{k+1}}{(1+k)^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{z=1}^{q-2}\zeta(z+1)\zeta(q-z)$$

Is this the derivation? and then we split up the numerator to get the other formula.

And I suppose we use the same method from $k+2$

By the way, you sent me the URL:
proof .

It didnt show up. I'll try to come up with my own proof (so don't show a link yet!)

Thanks =)
 
  • #104
Olok said:
It follows that:

$H_k = H_{k-1} + \frac{1}{k}$

From the original hint:

$$\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_n}{n^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{q-2}\zeta(k+1)\zeta(q-k)$$

$H_{k-1} = H_k + \frac{1}{k}$

$$\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_n}{n^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{q-2}\zeta(k+1)\zeta(q-k)$$

$$= \sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_{n-1} + \frac{1}{n}}{n^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{q-2}\zeta(k+1)\zeta(q-k)$$

Let n = k-1

$$= \sum_{k=2}^\infty \frac{H_{k} + \frac{1}{k+1}}{(1+k)^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{z=1}^{q-2}\zeta(z+1)\zeta(q-z)$$

Is this the derivation? and then we split up the numerator to get the other formula.

And I suppose we use the same method from $k+2$

Yes , but remember that in our problem $k$ starts from 1 not 2 , so you have to take care of that.
By the way, you sent me the URL:
proof .

It didnt show up. I'll try to come up with my own proof (so don't show a link yet!)

Thanks =)

Ok , good luck with a nice proof.
 
  • #105
ZaidAlyafey said:
Yes , but remember that in our problem $k$ starts from 1 not 2 , so you have to take care of that.

Ok , good luck with a nice proof.

FIRST QUESTION:
Where do you find such formulas in the first place? I mean, I tried searching online but couldn't find traces of that formula, so how did you discover it and where?

NEXT:

$$\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_n}{n^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{q-2}\zeta(k+1)\zeta(q-k)$$

We know: $H_k = H_{k-1} + \frac{1}{k}$

$$\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_{n-1} + \frac{1}{n}}{n^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{q-2}\zeta(k+1)\zeta(q-k)$$

Let $n = k + 1$, the starting point is then: $k = 0$

$$\sum_{k=0}^\infty \frac{H_{k} + \frac{1}{(k+1)}}{(k+1)^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{z=1}^{q-2}\zeta(z+1)\zeta(q-z)$$

$$\sum_{k=0}^\infty \frac{H_{k} + \frac{1}{(k+1)}}{(k+1)^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{z=1}^{q-2}\zeta(z+1)\zeta(q-z)$$

$$\sum_{k=0}^\infty \frac{H_{k}}{(k+1)^q} + \frac{1}{(k+1)^{q+1}}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{z=1}^{q-2}\zeta(z+1)\zeta(q-z)$$

$$\therefore \sum_{k=1}^\infty \frac{H_{k}}{(k+1)^q} = \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{z=1}^{q-2}\zeta(z+1)\zeta(q-z) -\sum_{k=0}^\infty \frac{1}{(k+1)^{q+1}}$$

Let $q = 1$

$$= (3/2)\zeta(2) - (1/2)(\sum_{z=1}^{-1} \zeta(z+1)\zeta(0)) - \sum_{k=0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(k+1)^{q+1}}$$

There is an issue here:

$$(\sum_{z=1}^{-1} \zeta(z+1)\zeta(0))$$ does not exist.
 
  • #106
The following sum diverges

$$\sum_{k\geq 1}\frac{H_k}{k}$$

Actually the Euler number $\gamma$ can be defined as

$$\gamma = \lim_{k\to \infty}H_k-\log(k)$$

So Harmonic number differ by a constant term as they approach infinity.

Hence we can write

$$\sum_{k\geq 1}\frac{H_k}{k} \sim \sum_{k\geq 1}\frac{\log(k)}{k} $$

The right integral diverges by the integral test.

You don't have to understand all of that but you have to know that diverges.

So the equation

$$\displaystyle \sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_n}{n^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{q-2}\zeta(k+1)\zeta(q-k)$$

only converges for $q \geq 2$ and by definition for $q=2$ we have

$$\displaystyle \sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_n}{n^2}=2\zeta(3)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{0}\zeta(k+1)\zeta(2-k)$$

The sum is by definition equal to 0 so

$$\displaystyle \sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_n}{n^2}=2\zeta(3)$$

For references you can search for Euler sums , you will find lots of papers.
 
  • #107
ZaidAlyafey said:
The following sum diverges

$$\sum_{k\geq 1}\frac{H_k}{k}$$

Actually the Euler number $\gamma$ can be defined as

$$\gamma = \lim_{k\to \infty}H_k-\log(k)$$

So Harmonic number differ by a constant term as they approach infinity.

Hence we can write

$$\sum_{k\geq 1}\frac{H_k}{k} \sim \sum_{k\geq 1}\frac{\log(k)}{k} $$

The right integral diverges by the integral test.

You don't have to understand all of that but you have to know that diverges.

So the equation

$$\displaystyle \sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_n}{n^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{q-2}\zeta(k+1)\zeta(q-k)$$

only converges for $q \geq 2$ and by definition for $q=2$ we have

$$\displaystyle \sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_n}{n^2}=2\zeta(3)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{0}\zeta(k+1)\zeta(2-k)$$

The sum is by definition equal to 0 so

$$\displaystyle \sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_n}{n^2}=2\zeta(3)$$

For references you can search for Euler sums , you will find lots of papers.

But the issue is we don't have an $n^2$ term when evaluating the $k+1$ sum. Please let me know if there is a work around for this.
Meanwhilw, I just had an idea.

We can consider the integral definition of the Harmonix number.

$$H_k = \int_{0}^{1} (1-x)^{k-1} dx$$

And convert the whole sum.

I used integral on the original geometric series formula and I got an intense formula involving several poly logarithms. Perhaps this is a way? Will you be interested on seeing that attempt?
 
  • #108
Olok said:
But the issue is we don't have an $n^2$ term when evaluating the $k+1$ sum. Please let me know if there is a work around for this.

I don't understand what you mean .

Meanwhilw, I just had an idea.

We can consider the integral definition of the Harmonix number.

$$H_k = \int_{0}^{1} (1-x)^{k-1} dx$$

And convert the whole sum.

I used integral on the original geometric series formula and I got an intense formula involving several poly logarithms. Perhaps this is a way? Will you be interested on seeing that attempt?

Of course , let me see if you got any other attempts. It might be better than my approach , why not ?
 
  • #109
ZaidAlyafey said:
I don't understand what you mean .
Of course , let me see if you got any other attempts. It might be better than my approach , why not ?

So we consider just

$$I = \sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\frac{\int_{0}^{1} (1-x)^{k-1} \,dx}{(k+1)(k+2)^3}$$

$$I = \int_{0}^{1} \sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{(1-x)^{k-1}}{(k+1)(k+2)^3} \,dx$$

Now it is about to get extremely complicated. Principally, we know

$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} x^{k-1} = \frac{1}{1-x}$$

$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} (1-x)^{k-1} = \frac{1}{x}$$

$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} (1-x)^{k} = \frac{(1-x)}{x}$$

$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{(1-x)^{k+1}}{k+1} = x - \log(x)$$

$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{(1-x)^{k+2}}{(k+1)(k+2)} = \frac{x^2}{2} + x - x\log(x)$$

$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{(1-x)^{k+1}}{(k+1)(k+2)} = \frac{\frac{x^2}{2} + x - x\log(x)}{(1-x)}$$

I need help here:

I can't integrate because I checked on W|A and there is a dilogarithmic term involved.

How do you express polylogs as indefnite integrals? So that there is no upper or lower bound?

From what I know:

$$Li_2(x) = (-)\cdot\int \frac{\log(x)}{(1-x)}$$
$$Li_2(1-x) = (-)\cdot \int \frac{\log(1-x)}{x}$$

Perhaps we could use integration by parts to get this factor in there?

There is always a question I've had:

How can you define a function $f(a)$ such that $a$ is actually inside the integral? So:

$$f(a) = \int ax^2 dx$$

Usually, textbooks define integral functions as the variable being the upper limit of a definite integral.

So what property/rule of integral, or definition states you can have a function of a variable inside the integral itself? Thanks!
 
  • #110
Olok said:
$$H_k = \int_{0}^{1} (1-x)^{k-1} dx$$

Sorry , I missed the definition ... Why is that true ?
 
  • #111
ZaidAlyafey said:
Sorry , I missed the definition ... Why is that true ?

Oh oh...

That's why it wasn't working.

I used the wrong definition. It is

$$H_k = \int_{0}^{1} \frac{1 - x^k}{1-x} \,dx$$

The $(1-x)$ isn't in brackets...

Please give me some time to think over this. Meanwhile... can you answer the other question I asked?

Question:
How can you define a function $f(a)$ such that $a$ is actually inside the integral? So:

$$f(a) = \int ax^2 dx$$

Usually, textbooks define integral functions as the variable being the upper limit of a definite integral.

So what property/rule of integral, or definition states you can have a function of a variable inside the integral itself? Thanks!
 
  • #112
Olok said:
Question:
How can you define a function $f(a)$ such that $a$ is actually inside the integral? So:

$$f(a) = \int ax^2 dx$$

Usually, textbooks define integral functions as the variable being the upper limit of a definite integral.

So what property/rule of integral, or definition states you can have a function of a variable inside the integral itself? Thanks!

You can do the following

$$f(a) = \int^{t_1}_{t_0} g(t,a)\,dt$$

where $t_0,t_1$ are constants.

Indeed , it is just a symbol to define the integral. For example we have

$$\Gamma(a) = \int^\infty_0 t^{a-1} \, e^{-t} \, dt$$

where in this case $f(a) = \Gamma(a) $ and $g(t,a) = t^{a-1} \, e^{-t} $.

Since $a$ is independent of $t$ we can define something like this

$$g(a) = a \int^1_0 f(t) \, dt $$

I don't recall a name for this property but is mainly used to differentiate w.r.t to the variable inserted.
 
  • #113
ZaidAlyafey said:
You can do the following

$$f(a) = \int^{t_1}_{t_0} g(t,a)\,dt$$

where $t_0,t_1$ are constants.

Indeed , it is just a symbol to define the integral. For example we have

$$\Gamma(a) = \int^\infty_0 t^{a-1} \, e^{-t} \, dt$$

where in this case $f(a) = \Gamma(a) $ and $g(t,a) = t^{a-1} \, e^{-t} $.

Since $a$ is independent of $t$ we can define something like this

$$g(a) = a \int^1_0 f(t) \, dt $$

I don't recall a name for this property but is mainly used to differentiate w.r.t to the variable inserted.

I suppose it is a property of integral functions. Anywho.

I worked on the problem, and found out how to do it... until a point.

We understand

$$I = \int_{0}^{1} \left(\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{(k+1)(k+2)^3} + \sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{x^k}{(k+1)(k+2)^2}\right) \, dx$$

Assuming both of these sums are convergent. I used the formula,

$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} x^{n-1} = \frac{1}{1-x}$$ to get a formula for a general $x^{k+2}$.

$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{x^{k+2}}{(k+1)(k+2)^3} = -Li_3(x) - Li_2(x) - \frac{x^2}{8} + 3x - x\log(1-x) + \log(1-x)$$

If you want to see the workings, I can try to scan it, because it took a few pages... (I used W|A for some integrals, instead of doing integration by parts).

Letting $x=1$, you get

$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{(k+1)(k+2)^3} = -Li_3(1) - Li_2(1) - \frac{1}{8} + 3 - \log(0) + \log(0)$$

Here is the crises, $\log(0)$ is undefined, is it okay to subtract this: $\text{undefined} - \text{undefined}$ ?? Let me know of this property/theorem.

$$= -\zeta(3) - \zeta(2) + \frac{23}{8}$$

I am working on the other part, but was the logarithmic subtraction correct?

Thanks
 
  • #114
Olok said:
$$I = \int_{0}^{1} \left(\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{(k+1)(k+2)^3} + \sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{x^k}{(k+1)(k+2)^2}\right) \, dx$$

I don't seem to understand how you got that!

You used

$$H_k = \int^1_0 \frac{1-x^k}{1-x}\,dx $$

right ?
 
  • #115
ZaidAlyafey said:
I don't seem to understand how you got that!

You used

$$H_k = \int^1_0 \frac{1-x^k}{1-x}\,dx $$

right ?

FIRST A QUESTION:
I asked this before, but can we do $\log(0) - \log(0) = 0$? Otherwise this idea doesn't work.

Now, the workings:

I'll try to do the best I can.

$$H_k = \int^1_0 \frac{1-x^k}{1-x}\,dx $$
We had

$$(2)\cdot\int_{0}^{1} \frac{1}{1-x}\left(\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{(k+1)(k+2)^3} - \sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{x^k}{(k+1)(k+2)^3}\right) \,dx$$

Through Fubini's theorem, you interchange the sum and integral, then $1/(1-x)$ is just a constant for the sum, so you can "extract," that out. Then split the sum, ASSUMING both are convergent. Since I am too lazy to do a test. Actually I don't know how to test a series for convergence anyway...

Then the sum of

$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{x^{k+2}}{(k+1)(k+2)^3} = -[Li_3(x) + Li_2(x)] - x^2/8 + 3x - x\log(1-x) + \log(1-x)$$

Letting $x=1$, the sum is: $S_1 = -\zeta(3) - \zeta(2) + 23/8$

Dividing the sum of $x^{k+2}$ by $x^2$ we get.

$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{x^{k}}{(k+1)(k+2)^3} = -[Li_3(x) + Li_2(x)]/x^2 - [x^2/8 + 3x - x\log(1-x) + \log(1-x)]/x^2$$

We had

$$(2)\cdot\int_{0}^{1} \frac{1}{1-x}\left(\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{(k+1)(k+2)^3} - \sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{x^k}{(k+1)(k+2)^3}\right) \,dx$$

$$= (2)\cdot\int_{0}^{1} \frac{1}{1-x}\left(-\zeta(3) - \zeta(2) + 23/8 - \left(-[Li_3(x) + Li_2(x)]/x^2 - [x^2/8 + 3x - x\log(1-x) + \log(1-x)]/x^2\right)\right) \,dx$$

$$= (2)\cdot\int_{0}^{1} \frac{-\zeta(3) - \zeta(2) + 23/8}{1-x}\left( - \left(\frac{-Li_3(x) - Li_2(x) - \frac{x^2}{8} - 3x + x\log(1-x) - \log(1-x)}{(1-x)x^2}\right)\right) \,dx$$

$$ = (2)\cdot\int_{0}^{1} \frac{-x^2\zeta(3) - x^2\zeta(2) + \frac{23x^2}{8} + Li_3(x) + Li_2(x) + \frac{x^2}{8} + 3x - x\log(1-x) + \log(1-x)}{(1-x)x^2} \,dx$$

I think we should split this, but this integral product should give the final answer.

But how come $\displaystyle \int_{0}^{1} \frac{Li_3(x) + Li_2(x)}{(1-x)x^2} \,dx$ does NOT converge?
 
  • #116
Olok said:
$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{x^{k+2}}{(k+1)(k+2)^3} = -[Li_3(x) + Li_2(x)] - x^2/8 + 3x - x\log(1-x) + \log(1-x)$$

Let us go step by step first. How did you prove the above formula ?
 
  • #117
ZaidAlyafey said:
Let us go step by step first. How did you prove the above formula ?

I will post it the second I get home. But for now,

How can I check if an integral converges or not?

I tried the integral

$$\int_{0}^{1} \frac{-Li_3(x) - Li_2(x)}{(1-x)x^2} \,dx$$

But it does not converge. How can I know if the integral, will converge or not BEFOREhand.QUESTION 2: Which types of integrals involving Polylogs converge?

Thanks =)
 
  • #118
$$\int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_2(x)}{1-x}\,dx$$

Does not converge. This can be see using

$$\int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_2(x)}{1-x}\,dx = \int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_2(1-x)}{x}\,dx$$

Then

$$\mathrm{Li}_2(1-x) = \zeta(2) -\mathrm{Li}_2(x)-\log(x)\log(1-x)$$

$$\int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_2(x)}{1-x}\,dx = \int^1_0 \frac{\zeta(2) -\mathrm{Li}_2(x)-\log(x)\log(1-x)}{x}\,dx $$

First integral

$$\int^1_0 \frac{\log(x)\log(1-x)}{x}\,dx = \int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_2(x)}{x}\,dx $$

The following integral

$$\int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_2(x)}{x}\,dx$$

converges since , function to integrate is continuous so the integral converges.

It remains

$$\int^1_0 \frac{\zeta(2)}{x}\,dx$$

is clearly divergent.

There are many ways to apply , but generally you have to do some change of variable or integration by part to see why the integral diverges. Sometimes , you have to do some computations.

In other cases , you can bound the integral. For example

$$\int^\infty_1 \frac{e^{-x}}{x^2}\,dx$$

How to prove that the improper integral converges ?

$$|\int^\infty_1 \frac{e^{-x}}{x^2}\,dx| \leq \int^\infty_1 | \frac{e^{-x}}{x^2}| \,dx \leq \int^\infty_1 \frac{1}{x^2} < \infty$$

Since the area of the integral is less than a finite area , the integral converges.
 
  • #119
ZaidAlyafey said:
$$\int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_2(x)}{1-x}\,dx$$

Does not converge. This can be see using

$$\int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_2(x)}{1-x}\,dx = \int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_2(1-x)}{x}\,dx$$

Then

$$\mathrm{Li}_2(1-x) = \zeta(2) -\mathrm{Li}_2(x)-\log(x)\log(1-x)$$

$$\int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_2(x)}{1-x}\,dx = \int^1_0 \frac{\zeta(2) -\mathrm{Li}_2(x)-\log(x)\log(1-x)}{x}\,dx $$

First integral

$$\int^1_0 \frac{\log(x)\log(1-x)}{x}\,dx = \int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_2(x)}{x}\,dx $$

The following integral

$$\int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_2(x)}{x}\,dx$$

converges since , function to integrate is continuous so the integral converges.

It remains

$$\int^1_0 \frac{\zeta(2)}{x}\,dx$$

is clearly divergent.

There are many ways to apply , but generally you have to do some change of variable or integration by part to see why the integral diverges. Sometimes , you have to do some computations.

In other cases , you can bound the integral. For example

$$\int^\infty_1 \frac{e^{-x}}{x^2}\,dx$$

How to prove that the improper integral converges ?

$$|\int^\infty_1 \frac{e^{-x}}{x^2}\,dx| \leq \int^\infty_1 | \frac{e^{-x}}{x^2}| \,dx \leq \int^\infty_1 \frac{1}{x^2} < \infty$$

Since the area of the integral is less than a finite area , the integral converges.

Here's the proof

$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} x^{k-1} = \frac{1}{1-x}$$
$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} x^{k} = \frac{x}{1-x}$$
$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{x^{k+1}}{k+1} = -x - \log(1-x)$$
$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{x^{k+2}}{(k+1)(k+2)} = \frac{-x^2}{2} + x - x\log(1-x) + \log(1-x)$$
$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{x^{k+1}}{(k+1)(k+2)} = \frac{-x}{2} + 1 - \log(1-x) + \frac{\log(1-x)}{x}$$
$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{x^{k+2}}{(k+1)(k+2)^2} = \log(1-x) - x\log(1-x) + 2x - \frac{x^2}{4} - Li_2(x) $$
$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{x^{k+1}}{(k+1)(k+2)^2} = \frac{\log(1-x)}{x} - \log(1-x) + 2 - \frac{x}{4} - \frac{Li_2(x)}{x} $$
$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{x^{k+2}}{(k+1)(k+2)^3} = -Li_2(x)+ x - x\log(1-x) + \log(1-x) + 2x - \frac{x^2}{8} - Li_3(x) \blacksquare$$
 
  • #120
Olok said:
Here's the proof

$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} x^{k-1} = \frac{1}{1-x}$$
$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} x^{k} = \frac{x}{1-x}$$
$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{x^{k+1}}{k+1} = -x - \log(1-x)$$
$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{x^{k+2}}{(k+1)(k+2)} = \frac{-x^2}{2} + x - x\log(1-x) + \log(1-x)$$
$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{x^{k+1}}{(k+1)(k+2)} = \frac{-x}{2} + 1 - \log(1-x) + \frac{\log(1-x)}{x}$$
$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{x^{k+2}}{(k+1)(k+2)^2} = \log(1-x) - x\log(1-x) + 2x - \frac{x^2}{4} - Li_2(x) $$
$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{x^{k+1}}{(k+1)(k+2)^2} = \frac{\log(1-x)}{x} - \log(1-x) + 2 - \frac{x}{4} - \frac{Li_2(x)}{x} $$
$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{x^{k+2}}{(k+1)(k+2)^3} = -Li_2(x)+ x - x\log(1-x) + \log(1-x) + 2x - \frac{x^2}{8} - Li_3(x) \blacksquare$$

Seems correct. Let us verify it by taking the limit as $x \to 1$.

What do you get ?

Does it agree with the value returned by wolfram.
 

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