Introducing LaTeX Math Typesetting

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The discussion centers around the introduction of LaTeX mathematical typesetting on Physics Forums, focusing on its implementation, usage, and examples. Participants explore how to effectively use LaTeX for mathematical expressions and share examples of LaTeX code.

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Main Points Raised

  • Warren introduces LaTeX typesetting, explaining its markup style and how to include LaTeX graphics in posts.
  • Some participants share additional examples of LaTeX code, demonstrating various mathematical expressions.
  • Warren invites suggestions for LaTeX packages to include, expressing concern about performance impacts from too many packages.
  • One participant inquires about using the LaTeX generator for personal web pages, prompting a discussion about server load and intended use.
  • Another participant expresses enthusiasm for practicing LaTeX by writing equations related to particle interactions.
  • A question arises about formatting subscripts in LaTeX, specifically how to create multi-line subscripts.
  • Participants provide tips on learning LaTeX, including quoting existing code to see how it is written and encouraging practice.
  • Warren reminds participants that clicking on LaTeX images reveals the source code, which can aid in learning.

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Participants generally agree on the usefulness of LaTeX for typesetting mathematics, but there are differing views on its application for personal use outside the forum, with some cautioning against it due to resource concerns.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about specific LaTeX formatting techniques and the potential performance implications of adding more packages to the forum's LaTeX capabilities.

  • #421
I have a question
How much Tex is to much tex?

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  • #422
That was not too much tex.

Limit is 20000 characters, interesting.

5 sin(2x) +5 x 0 to 10
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hmm can not put things too close together.

I am having trouble using negative number. I should just displace everything.
What is a better way to do these graphs, so they take fewer commands?
 
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  • #423
10 BesselJ[0,z]

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  • #424
Why does the first one work while the second one is messed up?

\frac{2AB}{t^{&#039;}_A - t_A} = c

\frac{2AB}{{t^&#039;}_A - t_A} = c
 
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  • #425
How would i go about getting the Amp to space a few characters away from the t(not) symbol?
I = \sqrt {[\frac {22.6T + 0.088t -490.58} {5 * 10^{-5} * t}] * t_{0}} Amp
 
  • #426
JesseM said:
Why does the first one work while the second one is messed up?

\frac{2AB}{t^{&#039;}_A - t_A} = c

\frac{2AB}{{t^&#039;}_A - t_A} = c


Because you screwed up the code.Specifically,because your first code differs from the second through misplaced "{" which changes the way the "\frac" would work...

Daniel.
 
  • #427
<br /> \lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow 0\\}} f(x,y)<br />
 
  • #428
I've got a question: Is it possible to make Feynman diagrams with our LaTeX hack? If not, would it be terribly difficult to create?

Thanks,
 
  • #429
A=60+(S+\Delta P) \times \frac{L_2}{L_1}
 
  • #430
anomoly said:
How would i go about getting the Amp to space a few characters away from the t(not) symbol?
I = \sqrt {[\frac {22.6T + 0.088t -490.58} {5 * 10^{-5} * t}] * t_{0}} Amp
I = \sqrt {[\frac {22.6T + 0.088t -490.58} {5 * 10^{-5} * t}] * t_{0}} \quad Amp

If you want it still farther away, use \qquad instead of \quad.
If you want it closer, use \;
 
  • #431
I posted this today in the cosmology forum:

dt = \frac{da}{H_0 \left(\frac{\Omega_{m,0}}{a} + a^2 \Omega_{\Lambda,0}\right)^{\frac{1}{2}}}

How can I made that the first "Omega" and "a" have the same size than the second?
 
  • #432
U can't.Note that the whole fraction must be on equal footing a^{2}Omega...That means that the denominator & the numerator would be smaller than they'd be without the fraction line.

Daniel.
 
  • #433
Use \displaystyle

dt = \frac{da}{H_0 \left(\displaystyle\frac{\Omega_{m,0}}{a} + a^2 \Omega_{\Lambda,0}\right)^{\frac{1}{2}}}
 
  • #434
Yikes,i guess I'm still a rookie...:redface:

Daniel.
 
  • #435
<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> Would{\rm }it{\rm }be{\rm }O.K{\rm }to{\rm }write{\rm }complete{\rm }posts{\rm }in{\rm }LaTex, \\ <br /> without{\rm }math{\rm }in{\rm }them \ldots {\rm }just{\rm }writing? \\ <br /> \end{array}

NOt that I can---but what if :smile: ?
 
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  • #436
robphy said:
Use \displaystyle
Thank you!
 
  • #437
<br /> v = 0.13<br />

<br /> P = \frac{1}{f}<br />
 
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  • #438
<br /> /mean=\frac{\sum x}{n}<br />
 
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  • #439
bomba923 said:
<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> Would{\rm }it{\rm }be{\rm }O.K{\rm }to{\rm }write{\rm }complete{\rm }posts{\rm }in{\rm }LaTex, \\ <br /> without{\rm }math{\rm }in{\rm }them \ldots {\rm }just{\rm }writing? \\ <br /> \end{array}

NOt that I can---but what if :smile: ?

You probably wanted to put the extra backslash to escape the space {\rm\ } to get
<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> Would{\rm\ }it{\rm\ }be{\rm\ }O.K{\rm\ }to{\rm\ }write{\rm\ }complete{\rm\ }posts{\rm\ }in{\rm\ }LaTex, \\ <br /> without{\rm\ }math{\rm\ }in{\rm\ }them \ldots {\rm\ }just{\rm\ }writing? \\ <br /> \end{array}

You could just write it in an mbox
<br /> \mbox{ Would it be O.K to write complete posts in \LaTeX, \\ <br /> without math in them \[\ldots\] just writing? } <br />
or in a verbatim environment
<br /> \begin{verbatim}<br /> Would it be O.K to write complete posts in LaTeX,<br /> without math in them... just writing?<br /> \end{verbatim} <br />

However, I think it is probably discouraged to post like this.
 
  • #440
The quadratic formula:

\begin{gathered}<br /> ax^2 + bx + c = 0,\\<br /> x = \frac{{ - b \pm \sqrt {b^2 - 4ac} }}<br /> {{2a}} \hfill \\ <br /> \end{gathered}
 
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  • #441
Brachistochrone Equation:
{\left\{ \begin{gathered}<br /> x = r\left( {\theta - \sin \theta } \right) \hfill \\<br /> y = r\left( {1 - \cos \theta } \right) \hfill \\ <br /> \end{gathered} \right\}}
 
  • #442
chroot said:
Whenever you want to include a graphic on the same line with your text, like C H_4 or G_\textrm{diffeo} or y = mx + b, you should use [ itex ]...[ /itex ] instead of [ tex ]...[ /tex ]. The "i" means "inline."

Click on each of the examples above to "learn by example."

If you have questions or comments about this site addition, you are welcome to post them here!

Good luck, and enjoy the system.

- Warren

I came looking specifically because my "inlines" were not in line. Glad to find this, but even with the itex the graphic is still raised. Is there a trick for lowering it more if you want to?

Edit

I am on a different machine now, and things look different. The inline text here does look inline. It is some local setting on my computer making the difference.
 
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  • #443
twoflower said:
<br /> blablablah \\<br /> newlineblabla<br />

Why doesn't \\ insert a new line for me? :confused:
 
  • #444
Problems with brackets:

\left(\begin{array}{cc}\frac{\partial u}{\partial x}&amp;\frac{\partial \nu}{\partial x}\\ \frac{\partial \nu}{\partial x}&amp;\frac{\partial u}{\partial x}\end{array}\right)

\phi(x,y)

\frac{\partial^2 \phi}{\partial u^2} + \frac{\partial^2 \phi}{\partial \nu^2} = 0

w = u(x,y) + i\nu(x,y)

\frac{\partial \phi}{\partial x} = \frac{\partial \phi}{\partial u} \frac{\partial u}{\partial x} + \frac{\partial \phi}{\partial \nu} \frac{\partial \nu}{\partial x}

and

\frac{\partial \phi}{\partial y} = \frac{\partial \phi}{\partial u} \frac{\partial u}{\partial y} + \frac{\partial \phi}{\partial \nu} \frac{\partial \nu}{\partial y}

A second differentiation of these yields the results:

\frac{\partial^2 \phi}{\partial x^2} = \frac{\partial \phi}{\partial u} \frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial x^2} + \left ( \frac{\partial^2 \phi}{\partial u^2} \frac{\partial u}{\partial x} + \frac{\partial^2 \phi}{\partial \nu \partial u} \frac{\partial \nu}{\partial x} \right ) \frac{\partial u}{\partial x} + \frac{\partial \phi}{\partial \nu} \frac{\partial^2 \nu}{\partial x^2} + \left ( \frac{\partial^2 \phi}{\partial u \partial \nu} \frac{\partial u}{\partial x} + \frac{\partial^2 \phi}{\partial \nu} \frac{\partial \nu}{\partial x} \right ) \frac{\partial \nu}{\partial x}

Adding:

\frac{\partial^2 \phi}{\partial x^2} + \frac{\partial^2 \phi}{\partial y^2} = \frac{\partial \phi}{\partial u} \left ( \frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial x^2} + \frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial y^2} \right ) + \frac{\partial^2 \phi}{\partial u^2} \left [ \left ( \frac{\partial u}{\partial x} \right )^2 + \left ( \frac{\partial u}{\partial y} \right )^2 \right ] + 2 \frac{\partial^2 \phi}{\partial u \partial \nu} \left ( \frac{\partial u}{\partial x} \frac{\partial \nu}{\partial y} \right ) + \frac{\partial \phi}{\partial \nu} \left ( \frac{\partial^2 \nu}{\partial x^2} + \frac{\partial^2 \nu}{\partial y^2} \right ) + \frac{\partial^2 \phi}{\partial \nu^2} \left [ \left ( \frac{\partial \nu}{\partial x} \right )^2 + \left ( \frac{\partial \nu}{\partial y} \right )^2 \right ]

w = u + i\nu

\frac{\partial^2 \phi}{\partial x^2} + \frac{\partial^2 \phi}{\partial y^2} = \frac{\partial^2 \phi}{\partial u^2} \left [ \left ( \frac{\partial \nu}{\partial x} \right )^2 + \left ( -\frac{\partial \nu}{\partial x} \right )^2 \right ] + \frac{\partial^2 \phi}{\partial \nu^2} \left [ \left ( \frac{\partial \nu}{\partial x} \right )^2 + \left ( \frac{\partial u}{\partial x} \right )^2 \right ] = \left [ \left ( \frac{\partial u}{\partial x} \right )^2 + \left ( \frac{\partial \nu}{\partial x} \right )^2 \right ] \left ( \frac{\partial^2 \phi}{\partial u^2} + \frac{\partial^2 \phi}{\partial \nu} \right ) = |f&#039;(z)|^2 \left ( \frac{\partial^2 \phi}{\partial u^2} + \frac{\partial^2 \phi}{\partial \nu^2} \right )
 
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  • #445
Just redefining an earlier problem I had (Do NOT pay attention to this! :smile:)

{\text{Let}} f_n \left( t \right) = \left\{ \begin{gathered} x_n \left( t \right) \hfill \\ y_n \left( t \right) \hfill \\ z_n \left( t \right) \hfill \\ \end{gathered} \right\} , {\text{ }} {\text{continuous}} {\text{ }} \forall t \in \left( {a,b} \right)

At any moment t \in \left( {a,b} \right), a triangle can be defined by the set of points \left\{ {f_1 \left( t \right),f_2 \left( t \right),f_3 \left( t \right)} \right\}.
Find the exact volume generated by this triangle from t = a to t = b.

(Don't pay attention to this)
 
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  • #446
a\xrightarrow{c}b

I can display things on top of arrows, but is it possible to display text under them (preferrably both above and below at the same time, actually)?
 
  • #447
a \stackrel{c}{\longrightarrow} b


a \overset{c}{\longrightarrow} b

a \underset{d}{\longrightarrow} b

a \underset{d}{\overset{c}{\longrightarrow}} b
 
  • #448
Thankesy! :)
 
  • #449
<br /> <br /> \sum<br /> <br /> \int<br /> <br /> \bigodot<br /> <br />
 
  • #450
F=GmM_e/r^2

Edit: You added an unnecessary "\" before the F and G, and left out the necessary "/" in your second bracket.
 
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