Kinematics on an inclined plane

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The discussion revolves around a kinematics problem involving a bus accelerating on an inclined plane. The bus driver accelerates at a constant rate on a level section before climbing a 7° incline, with initial and final speeds provided. Participants are tasked with determining the distance traveled by the bus as its speed decreases from 60 mi/h to 50 mi/h.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between acceleration, speed, and distance using kinematic equations. There are attempts to integrate acceleration as a function of position and to apply the work-energy principle. Some participants question the assumptions made regarding friction and the application of formulas.

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Some participants have provided guidance on correcting mathematical errors, while others express confusion about the calculations involved. There is an acknowledgment of differing approaches to the problem, with no explicit consensus reached on the correct method or interpretation.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem statement, which does not mention friction, and are attempting to reconcile their calculations with the expected outcome. There are indications of miscalculations and misunderstandings regarding the application of kinematic equations.

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Homework Statement


In anticipation of a long 7° upgrade, a bus driver accelerates at a constant rate of 3ft/s2 while still on a level section of the highway. Knowing that the speed of the bus is 60mi/h as it begins to climb the grade and that the driver does not change the setting of his throttle or shift gears, determine the distance traveled by the bus up the grade when its speed has decreased to 50mi/h.

Answer: 0.242mi (1,278ft)

Homework Equations


g = 32.3ft/s2
θ = 7°
Initial acceleration = 3ft/s2
vi = 60mi/hr = 88ft/s
vf = 50mi/hr = 73.333ft/s
xi = 0ft
xf = ? ft

The Attempt at a Solution



\sum F_{x}=-mgsin\theta=ma

\sum F_{y}=N-mgcos\theta=0

Using the Fx equation, acceleration on the plane = -gsin(θ). The problem doesn't state anything about friction so my assumption is that friction doesn't play into the solution.

Acceleration starts at 3ft/s2 at xi and decreases by a constant -gsin(θ) as the bus travels up the grade.

I have a formula for acceleration when it depends on position but it produces the wrong answer.

{v_{f}}^{2}={v_{i}}^{2}+\int_{0}^{x_{f}}a(x)dx

(73.\bar{3})^{2}-(88)^2=\int_{0}^{x_{f}}[3-gsin(\theta)]dx

(73.\bar{3})^{2}-(88)^2=(3-gsin(\theta))x_{f}

x_{f}=2565.6ft=.486mi\neq[the.correct.answer]
 
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JJBladester said:
{v_{f}}^{2}={v_{i}}^{2}+\int_{0}^{x_{f}}a(x)dx
You're off by a factor of 2 in that last term:
V2f = V2i + 2ax
 
Yeppers... That'll do it. And now the math works out and I have the correct answer. Thanks Doc!
 
i'm having trouble following the math involved. Can someone set me straight?

Vf^2 = V_0^2 + 2aD
73.3^2 - 80^2 = 2aD
-1022.27 = 2(3-9.81sin(7)x_f
-511.1355 = (3-9.81(sin7))x_f
-511.1355 = (3-1.1955)x_f
-511.1355 = 1.8044*x_f
x_f = -283.26 feet.

What am i missing?
 

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