Kinetic Friction of ride down a ramp

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a seal sliding down a ramp at an amusement park, where the height of the ramp and the angle of inclination are provided. The objective is to determine the work done by kinetic friction as the seal reaches the water with a specified speed.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss energy calculations, including potential and kinetic energy, and question the application of energy conservation principles. There are inquiries about the accuracy of initial energy calculations and the significance of negative work in the context of friction.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights regarding significant figures and conventions for negative work. There is an ongoing exploration of how to calculate the coefficient of kinetic friction, with suggestions to first determine the friction force.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential issues with significant figures and the conventions used in the calculations. There is also a mention of the need to clarify the relationship between work done by friction and the coefficient of kinetic friction in this specific scenario.

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Homework Statement



A 28.0 kg seal at an amusement park slides down a ramp into the pool below. The top of the ramp is 1.80 m higher than the surface of the water and the ramp is inclined at an angle of 30.0° above the horizontal. The seal reaches the water with a speed of 4.90 m/s.

What is the work done by kinetic friction?

Homework Equations



mgh

K = 1/2mv^2

The Attempt at a Solution



initial energy = mgh = 493.92

final energy = Kf = 1/2mv^2 = 336.14

If the initial was 493.92 and the final was 336.14 then I would assume there was a loss of 157.78, but that wasn't the right answer. Any help?
 
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I believe that you did this problem correctly. The only two things that I can think of are significant figures and minus sign conventions. I would call the work negative.
 
MarineBio said:

The Attempt at a Solution



initial energy = mgh = 493.92

my calculator does not give that, how did you get that?

But mgh= 1/2mv2 +Wf does look correctly applied.
 
turin said:
I believe that you did this problem correctly. The only two things that I can think of are significant figures and minus sign conventions. I would call the work negative.

Whoops, silly mistake. You're right, I just had to put a negative sign on the work of friction. Thanks.
 
Ok so the answer was -157.78 J and in order to find the coefficient of kinetic friction, uk, I thought it would be to simply divide by (mg) but I guess it isn't that simple in this scenario. How would I determine uk?
 
You would need to find the friction force first. You have that Wf = Ff * d and Ff = uk * FN
 

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