Line Charge+ insulating Cylindrical Shell

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The problem involves an infinite line of charge with a specified linear density and a thick insulating cylindrical shell with a given volume charge density. The task is to determine the linear charge density of the insulating shell and the y-component of the electric field at a specific point along the y-axis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conversion from volume charge density to linear charge density and the necessary formulas for calculating the volume of the cylindrical shell. There are questions about the need for the length of the cylinder and how to apply the charge densities in the context of electric field calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the relationships between charge densities and the geometry of the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the calculation of charge per unit length without needing the total length of the cylinder. The discussion is ongoing with multiple interpretations being considered.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the geometry of the shell (cylindrical vs. spherical) and the implications of the volume charge density in relation to the linear charge density. The lack of a specified length for the cylinder is acknowledged as a challenge in the calculations.

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Homework Statement


An infinite line of charge with linear density λ = 8.8 μC/m is positioned along the axis of a thick insulating shell of inner radius a = 2.9 cm and outer radius b = 4.1 cm. The insulating shell is uniformly charged with a volume density of ρ = -659 μC/m3.

What is λ2, the linear charge density of the insulating shell?

What is Ey(P), the value of the y-component of the electric field at point P, located a distance 8.4 cm along the y-axis from the line of charge?



Homework Equations


E.dA = Q/Epsilon nought
Q=rhow*V in terms of volume charge density
Q=lambda*L in terms of linear charge density


The Attempt at a Solution



λ2 = rhow/Surface Area of the Spherical Shell
λ2 = -659 μC/m3 * 4*pi* .041^2 = -13.9 μC/m

but this is wrong! why?
 
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For one thing, it's a cylindrical shell, not a spherical shell. For another, they want the linear charge density, which is the charge per unit length.
 
well how do i go from the surface charge density to linear charge density..is there a formula for that?
 
hime said:
well how do i go from the surface charge density to linear charge density..is there a formula for that?
You have a volume charge density. Find the total charge per length of that cylindrical shell. (First find the volume between the inner and outer radii.)
 
yeah sry for those typos.
anyway, we find the volume of the shell by using formula:
=(Area of outer base-Area of inner base) * Length
=pi*(.041^2-.029^2) *Length
But i do not know the length of the cylinder, that's the main problem I am facing.
 
hime said:
But i do not know the length of the cylinder, that's the main problem I am facing.
You don't need to know the length. You want the charge per unit length.
 
oh got it! Volume charge density*Area of the shell = Linear charge density which is
-659*pi*(.041^2-.029^2)=-1.74e-6 C/m

Now, how do I find E(y) at P? Do I just use E = q/(epsilon nought * Area of the Gaussian cylinder at P) or do I use the linear charge density in the formula?
 
Whichever way you do it, you'll end up needing the linear charge density. (You'll need it to find the charge within your Gaussian surface, for example.)
 

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