Marbles dropped from elevator. Find height of elevator.

In summary, the elevator and the marble are both in uniform motion, with the marble accelerating at a rate of 9.8 m/s^2. The height of the elevator at the time T1 when the marble was dropped can be found by solving for the initial height using the kinematic equations.
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An elevator ascends from the ground with uniform speed. At time [tex] T_1 [/tex] a boy drops a marble through the floor. The marble galls with uniform acceleration [tex] g = 9.8 [/tex] and hits the ground [tex] T_2 [/tex] seconds later. Find the height of the elevator at time [tex] T_1 [/tex].

So we use the following equations:

[tex] v_{y} = v_{y0} -gt [/tex]
[tex] y-y_0 = v_{y0}t - \frac{1}{2}gt^{2} [/tex]

[tex] y-y_0 = \frac{1}{2}(v_{y0} + v_y)t [/tex]

[tex] v_{y}^{2} = v_{y0}^{2} - 2g(y-y_0) [/tex]

So we probably have to consider 2 cases: the elevator and the marble.

Elevator

[tex] v_y = v_{y0} [/tex]

[tex] y = v_{y0}t [/tex]

[tex] y = \frac{1}{2}v_{y}t [/tex]

[tex] v_{y}^{2} = -2g(y-y_0) [/tex]

Am I on the right track?
 
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Also [tex] 0 = v_{yT_{2}}(T_1 + T_2) + \frac{1}{2}g(T_1 + T_2)^{2} [/tex]
 
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Lots of equations there, you must choose the best one. If the marble is dropped at T1, it hits the ground in (T2-T1) seconds. You must now solve for the initial height of the elevator at the time the marble was dropped. That's also the initial height of the marble. Now once you know the initial velocity of the marble, which is related to the velocity of the elevator, which equation would you choose? Watch your plus and minus signs.

EDIT: Sorry, I misread the problem statemnt, it takes T2 seconds to reach the ground, so just assume the start time T1 is 0, and use T2 in your kinematic equation that relates displacemnt with initial velocity, acceleration of gravity, and time.
 
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1. How can you find the height of the elevator from dropped marbles?

To find the height of the elevator, you will need to measure the time it takes for the marble to fall from the top of the elevator to the bottom. Then, you can use the equation h = (1/2)gt^2, where h is the height, g is the acceleration due to gravity, and t is the time. Plug in the measured time and the known value for g (approximately 9.8 m/s^2) to calculate the height of the elevator in meters or feet.

2. Why do marbles dropped from an elevator provide a way to measure its height?

Marbles dropped from an elevator can provide a way to measure its height because the marble's motion is affected only by the force of gravity. This means that the time it takes for the marble to fall is solely dependent on the height of the elevator, making it a reliable method for height measurement.

3. Can the height of the elevator be accurately measured if the elevator is moving?

Yes, the height of the elevator can still be accurately measured if the elevator is moving. As long as the motion of the elevator is constant (i.e. not accelerating or decelerating), the marble will still fall at the same rate and the height can be calculated using the equation mentioned above.

4. How do you account for air resistance when calculating the height of the elevator using dropped marbles?

Air resistance can be neglected when calculating the height of the elevator using dropped marbles because it only significantly affects the motion of objects at high speeds. The relatively short distance the marble falls in the elevator does not allow for enough time for air resistance to have a significant impact on the measurement.

5. Are there any limitations to using this method for measuring the height of an elevator?

One limitation to using dropped marbles to measure the height of an elevator is that it assumes the elevator is a perfect vacuum, with no air resistance or other external forces acting on the marble. In reality, there may be slight variations due to air resistance or other factors, but this method can still provide a close approximation of the elevator's height.

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