Mass-spring-damper system "shock absorber"

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The discussion focuses on deriving the equations of motion for a mass-spring-damper system with specified parameters, including mass, spring constants, damping coefficient, and gravitational acceleration. The initial equations proposed include a term for gravitational force and spring forces, but the user encounters issues when modeling the system in Simulink. Clarification is sought regarding the equilibrium state of the system when spring constants are set to zero, leading to a realization about the distinction between position and displacement. The user acknowledges the need to adjust their understanding of the system dynamics based on the parameters provided. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the complexities of modeling mechanical systems accurately.
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Find equations of motion for mechanical system given by picture, where m = 1kg, k1 = 10, k2 = 25, b = 3 and natural lengths of springs are a1 = 1m, a2 = 2m. The whole system is in a gravitational field g = 9.81m/s^2

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I came up with
m\ddot{y} = -k_2 y + k_1 (q-y) + mg \\<br /> b\dot{q} = -k_1(q-y)<br />
but whenever I try to model it in simulink it doesn't seem right.
 

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vaitus said:
it doesn't seem right
In what respect ?

Anyway, you can check what you get for k1=0 and for k2=0
 
When I let k1=k2=0 the mass will just keep falling, which is ok (second picture). But when k1, k2 is what it should be then (second pic), I would guess they shouldn't have an equilibrium state at the same place.

EDIT: Oh, It should be this way because it isn't the position but it's displacement and when it doesn't have mass (the q) then it should be this.
Ok, anyway thanks
 

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