Motion in curves - Find radial and circumferential components of V and A

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The discussion focuses on calculating the radial and circumferential components of velocity and acceleration for a comet's motion defined by the position vector R = (t² - 1)i + 2tj at time t = 2. The user successfully derived the velocity v = 2ti + 2j and acceleration a = 2i but questioned the application of polar coordinate equations due to the position vector being a function of time rather than angle. The correct approach involves using the equations Vr = V * Ur and Vθ = V * Uθ, where Ur and Uθ are unit vectors in polar coordinates.

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Homework Statement



At time t, a comet has the position R = (t2-1)i + 2tj

At t = 2, find the radial and circumferential components of velocity and acceleration


Homework Equations


Vr = V * Ur
Vθ = V * Uθ

ar = a * Ur
aθ = a * Uθ

Ur = cosθ i + sinθ j
Uθ = -sinθ i + cosθ j

The Attempt at a Solution



I've found

v = 2ti + 2j
a= 2i

However, am I allowed to use these equations when the position vector is a function of t and not a function of θ? I'm not very good at polar coordinates so I'm really not sure if I can apply the above equations to my problem right away. Thanks
 
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so you've found the correct equations for v & a in caretseian coords, however now you must find their projection in the radial and theta directions
 
Yeah, but say I do Vr = V * Ur

I would get

Vr = (2t i + 2 j) * (cosθ i + sinθ j)
Vr = 2tcosθ i + 2sinθ j

Is that right? It strikes me as odd that the Vr I found has both θ and t in it.
 
thaer_dude said:
Yeah, but say I do Vr = V * Ur

I would get

Vr = (2t i + 2 j) * (cosθ i + sinθ j)
Vr = 2tcosθ i + 2sinθ j

Is that right? It strikes me as odd that the Vr I found has both θ and t in it.

if that is a dot product, then it should have a scalar result, not a vector
Vr = (2t i + 2 j) * (cosθ i + sinθ j) = 2tcosθ + 2sinθ

And it should be a simple exercise to write theta in terms of t
 
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thaer_dude said:
Yeah, but say I do Vr = V * Ur

I would get

Vr = (2t i + 2 j) * (cosθ i + sinθ j)
Vr = 2tcosθ i + 2sinθ j

Is that right? It strikes me as odd that the Vr I found has both θ and t in it.
What sort of multiplication gives: (2t i + 2 j) * (cosθ i + sinθ j) = 2t*cosθ i + 2sinθ j ?
 

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