Archived Sign Discrepancy in Plane Stress Transformation Solutions?

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The discussion focuses on a homework problem involving plane stress transformation solutions, where the user encounters sign discrepancies in their force balance calculations. They report obtaining a negative force in the x-direction and a positive force in the y-direction, leading to confusion about the shear stress direction in their free body diagram. Despite the magnitude of their answers being correct, they question whether the sign errors stem from their shear stress assumptions. The stress tensor and stress vector calculations are presented, ultimately leading to a critical load of 3896 N, which aligns with another solution. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly identifying stress directions in structural analysis.
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Here is the problem with my attempt at the solution:
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The magnitude of my answers are correct, HOWEVER I am getting the wrong signs. For the force balance in the x direction I get a negative P but for the force balance in the y direction I get a positive P. Does anyone know why?

I was thinking it was because I have the wrong direction for shear stress on my free body diagram... But I thought this wouldn't matter since the math will always work itself out?
 
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The stress tensor in the members is ##\vec{\sigma}=\frac{P}{(0.05)(0.08)}\vec{i}_x\vec{i}_x=250 P\vec{i}_x\vec{i}_x## Pa. The unit normal to the joint is ##\cos {25}\vec{i}_x+\sin{25}i_y##. From the Cauchy stress relationship, the stress vector acting on the joint is ##250 P\cos {25}\vec{i}_x##. The component of this stress vector normal to the joint is ##250 P\cos^2 {25}##. The unit tangent to the joint is ##\cos{25} \vec{i}y-\sin{25}\vec{i_x}##. The component of the stress vector tangent to the joint is ##250 P\sin{25}\cos {25}##. So, for the joint not to fail,
$$250 P \cos^2 {25}< 800000$$and $$250 P\sin{25}\cos {25}<600000$$So,$$P<3896\ N$$and $$P<6266\ N$$So the critical load is 3896 N.

This result is basically the same as the result obtained by theBEAST, and thus confirms his answer.
 
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