Engineering Second order circuit need some confirmation on the steps involved.

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The discussion focuses on solving for v(t) in a second-order circuit after a switch is closed, emphasizing the use of KCL and KVL equations. Participants clarify the importance of accounting for dependent sources, with one suggesting the conversion of a dependent source to a voltage value of 20V. There is a debate on whether using Laplace transforms is appropriate, with some arguing it deviates from the second-order method required by the problem. The Norton equivalent is mentioned as a potential simplification, highlighting the need for accurate representation of circuit components. Overall, the conversation centers on ensuring correct application of circuit analysis techniques while adhering to the problem's constraints.
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Homework Statement


Find v(t) for all t>0. Use second order method.


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Before the switch is closed:
solving for i:
-80+160i+80i+80i=0
i=0.25A

KCL:
From node v(t):
[C dv(t)/dt] + i(t) + [V(t)/4] + [(v(t)-80i)/80]+[(v(t)-80)/160] = 0

KVL:
v(t)=L di(t)/dt

Later on solve the 1st equation for i(t), then substitute into KVL equation.
 

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Consider replacing everything before the switch with a Norton equivalent.

Have you learned about Laplace transforms yet?
 
yes, but the question ask us to use 2nd order to solve it.
Do we need to take in account for the dependent source?
we convert it to 80*0.25=20V
 
berry1991 said:
yes, but the question ask us to use 2nd order to solve it.
In my opinion, I don't think that using Laplace transforms to solve the differential equation would be cheating...
Do we need to take in account for the dependent source?
we convert it to 80*0.25=20V
Yes, the dependent source makes a difference, but you may be surprised by the resulting Norton equivalent. The Norton equivalent should have a current source in parallel with a resistance; 20V is not a current (nor is the the correct Thevenin voltage).
 

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