Simple Harmonic Motion & Pendulum Problems Need HELP

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The discussion revolves around problems related to simple harmonic motion (SHM) and pendulum dynamics, specifically focusing on a block-spring system and the calculations of maximum speed, speed at a certain displacement, and acceleration. Participants are exploring the relationships between displacement, velocity, and acceleration in the context of SHM.

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  • Participants discuss various formulas related to SHM, including the maximum speed and velocity at specific displacements. Questions arise regarding the correct application of these formulas and the differentiation process to find velocity and acceleration. Some participants express confusion about the relationships between variables and seek clarification on the underlying concepts.

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Question 1:
A 0.1 kg block attached to a spring of force constant 16.9 N/m oscillates with an amplitude of 6 cm. Find the maximum speed of the block. Answer in units of m/s.

Question 2:
Find the speed of the block when it is 3 cm from the equilibrium position. Answer in units of m/s.

Question 3:
Find its acceleration at 3 cm from the equilibrium position.
Answer in units of m/s2.1) Vmax = .06(16.9/.1)^.5
= 0.78 THIS IS CORRECT

2) v = Vmaxsin(pi/3)
= 0.78(pi/3)
= THIS IS WORONG

3) a = .5Vmaxomega
= .5(7.8) (16.9/.1)^.5
= THIS IS WRONG TOO

I tried and I got 2 and 3 wrong :( I ran out of solutions. help please

I was pretty sure one was right.. but it said it was wrong when I entered it :(
 
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Do you know a formula to find the maximum speed if x=Asin[itex]\omega t[/itex] ?
 


Are you saying that is the speed formula? I am not sure of any.. I feel completely lost!
 
The first one is correct.

For the 2nd one, if [itex]x=Asin\omega t[/itex]
[itex]\frac{dx}{dt}=v=A\omega cos\omega t[/itex]...(*)

[tex]sin^2 \omega t+ cos^2 \omega t =1 \Rightarrow cos^2 \omega t=\pm \sqrt{1-sin^2 \omega t}[/tex]

Making (*) become
[tex]v=\pm \omega A\sqrt{1-sin^2 \omega t}[/tex]

[tex]v=\pm \omega \sqrt{A^2-A^2sin^2 \omega t}[/tex]

[tex]v=\pm \sqrt{A^2-x^2}[/tex]

For the third part. What equation do you know connecting acceleration and displacement??
 
Ok here goes.

The formula for SHM is x = Asin[wt] (w representing omega/angular momentum)
w = sqrt(k/m) Just does :P

So

x = Asin[sqrt(k/m).t]

v=x/t or dx/dt
d(Asin[sqrt(k/m).t])/dt just diffentiates x which is Asin[sqrt(k/m).t], with respect to t
v = dx/dt = sqrt(k/m).Asin[sqrt(k/m).t]

The sin function vaires between 1 and -1,
so v is at a max when sin[sqrt(k/m).t]=1
so you get
vMAX = sqrt(k/m).A

PART 2

For this part you have the same two equations

x = Asin[sqrt(k/m).t]
v = sqrt(k/m).Asin[sqrt(k/m).t]

You are asked to find out what v is at 3cm.
However your v equation depends on t so the first
thing you must do is find at what time t x=3

x = Asin[sqrt(k/m).t]
x/A = sin[sqrt(k/m).t]
sin-1[x/a] = sqrt(k/m).t sin-1 indicates inverse sin
t = (sin-1[x/a])/sqrt(k/m)

with this t you just plug it into your eq for v:
v = sqrt(k/m).Acos[sqrt(k/m).t].

PART 3

a = dv/dt so you just diffrentiate your eq for v again
a = -(k/m).Asin[sqrt(k/m).t]

Now you know what time x=3 so you just put this in the equation for a

If you write these down it will be very clear.
 
i need help with thia problem i seem to be stuck on finding the spring constant here is the problem
a spring is hanging with a 50kg mass on its end. when 20g is added it stretches 7cm more. a)find the spring constant b) if the 20g is removed, what i the new period of motion
 
laetitia said:
i need help with thia problem i seem to be stuck on finding the spring constant here is the problem
a spring is hanging with a 50kg mass on its end. when 20g is added it stretches 7cm more. a)find the spring constant b) if the 20g is removed, what i the new period of motion

a)K=F/x
k=(.02x9.81)/.07
k=2.8Nm^-1
b)f=(1/2[tex]\pi[/tex])([tex]\sqrt{}(k/m)[/tex]
f=(1/2[tex]\pi[/tex])([tex]\sqrt{}(2.8/50)[/tex]
f=0.03766Hz
f=1/t
t=26.6s

Does that help? you should create ur own thread 4 different questions...
 

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