Solving an Inelastic Collision: Finding the Angle of Motion for Two Cars

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The problem involves an inelastic collision between two cars, where the red car is moving north and the blue car is moving east before colliding at an intersection. The objective is to determine the angle at which the combined mass of the cars moves after the collision.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of momentum for both x and y components to find the final velocities. There is also a focus on the calculation of the angle using the arctangent function based on the final velocity components.

Discussion Status

Some participants confirm the calculations leading to an angle of approximately 27 degrees north of east, while others question the original poster's confidence in their answer. There is an ongoing exploration of the reasoning behind the perceived discrepancies in the results.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the collision is completely inelastic, which affects the momentum calculations. There is also mention of the need for clarity regarding the conservation principles being applied, specifically distinguishing between momentum and energy conservation.

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Homework Statement



A red car and a blue car collide at an in intersection. Prior to the collision the red car with mass 1000kg was heading North at 15m/s. The blue car with mass 1500 kg was heading East at 20m/s. The collision is completely inelastic with the cars sticking together and moving as one. At what angle measured North of East do the cars move off?

Homework Equations


I used Vf = √(Vfx2) + (Vfy2)

I alsoUsed m1vf1x+ m2vf2x= m1vi1x + m2vix for x component and
m1vf1y+ m2vf2y= m1vi1y + m2viy for y component

and then θ = tan-1(vfy/vfx) to findthe angle but i keep geting it wrong

The Attempt at a Solution


I ended up with an angle of around 27 degrees
 
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This is a conservation of momentum problem, not conservation of energy as your title suggests. However, your method looks good and I agree with your answer. What's wrong with it?
 
That is correct about 27 degrees north of east. at a velocity about 13.5 m/s (13 with 2 sig figs)
 
Cars stick after collision. So they have common velocity. Let velocity = vf
Take east as +ve x and north as +ve y

For x component:-
(m1+m2)vfx = m1vi1x + m2vix
(1000+1500)vfx = 1000*0 + 1500*20
2500 vfx = 30000
vfx = 30000/2500 = 300/25
vfx = 12 m/s

For y component
(m1+m2)vfy = m1vi1y + m2viy
(1000+1500)vfy = 1000*15 + 1500*0
2500 * vfy = 15000
vfy = 15000/2500 = 150/25 = 6 m/s

theta = tan-1(vfy/vfx) = tan-1(6/12) = tan-1(1/2) = 26.565 deg
So, as approximation, this is same as your answer. Why do you think your answer is wrong?
 

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