Solving Projectile Motion Problem: 4.2 m/s

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The problem involves projectile motion, where a ball is rolled off a diving board to hit a swimmer below. The scenario includes calculating the necessary speed of the ball as it rolls off a height of 10 m to reach a horizontal distance of 6 m.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for time taken for the ball to fall and question the assumptions made regarding horizontal and vertical motion. There is a focus on the equations used to determine time and speed, with some participants suggesting corrections to the equations applied.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing calculations and questioning the validity of the methods used. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between horizontal and vertical motion, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or solution.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the application of equations for projectile motion, particularly in distinguishing between horizontal and vertical components. Participants are also addressing potential errors in the calculations presented.

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Homework Statement


Jim stands with a ball at the rear of a diving board, 10 m above the
surface of a swimming pool. His friend Bob is swimming below, at a
horizontal distance of 6 m from the front of the board. Jim thinks it
would be funny to roll his ball along the diving board so that it drops on
Bob’s head. Assuming that the effects of friction and air resistance are
negligible, calculate the speed (in m s-1) at which Jim must roll the
ball.

Homework Equations


s=u+1/2at^2
speed=distance/time

The Attempt at a Solution


rearranged s=u+1/2at^2 to find t
t=1.1s
speed 6/1.1=5.45m/s
However the answer is 4.20m/s
where did I go wrong?
 
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fleur said:

Homework Statement


Jim stands with a ball at the rear of a diving board, 10 m above the
surface of a swimming pool. His friend Bob is swimming below, at a
horizontal distance of 6 m from the front of the board. Jim thinks it
would be funny to roll his ball along the diving board so that it drops on
Bob’s head. Assuming that the effects of friction and air resistance are
negligible, calculate the speed (in m s-1) at which Jim must roll the
ball.

Homework Equations


s=u+1/2at^2
speed=distance/time

The Attempt at a Solution


rearranged s=u+1/2at^2 to find t
t=1.1s
speed 6/1.1=5.45m/s
However the answer is 4.20m/s
where did I go wrong?
Why don't you show us your calculations of how you obtained t = 1.1 s for the time it takes the ball to fall from the board and hit the water.
 
SteamKing said:
Why don't you show us your calculations of how you obtained t = 1.1 s for the time it takes the ball to fall from the board and hit the water.
I did square root of 2x6/9.81
 
fleur said:
I did square root of 2x6/9.81
So the ball is falling horizontally? I thought the board was 10 m above the surface of the water.
 
The equation is wrong

fleur said:

Homework Equations


s=u+1/2at^2
The equation is s=ut+1/2at2

fleur said:
I did square root of 2x6/9.81

The time taken for it to hit the pool when dropped is the same as when rolled since the horizontal and vertical components of the velocity do not affect each other.
 

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