Static friction and maximum/minimum force

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The discussion revolves around a block of mass m resting on an inclined plane with friction, focusing on determining the maximum horizontal force that can be applied without causing the block to move up the incline. The problem involves understanding the roles of static friction and the forces acting on the block at an angle θ.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the significance of the terms in the equations for maximum force, particularly the effects of static friction represented by μ and the trigonometric functions of the angle θ. There are inquiries about the reasoning behind the signs in the numerator of the force equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have engaged in drawing Free Body Diagrams to clarify their understanding of the forces involved. There appears to be a progression in comprehension as participants express realization of concepts after initial confusion. However, questions about specific components of the equations remain, indicating ongoing exploration.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through the complexities of static friction and its interaction with the inclined plane setup. There is a focus on understanding the mathematical representation of forces without reaching a definitive conclusion on the problem itself.

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Homework Statement



A block of mass m is at rest on an inclined plane of angle θ with respect to the horizontal. There is friction between the block and the inclined surface (μk and μs).

Now, assume that the value of θ is less than the value in part A) (so that the block will remain stationary if no other forces act on it). What is the maximum magnitude of a horizontal Force F that(with respect to ground) can be applied without causing the block to move up the incline?

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The Attempt at a Solution



I have found a similar thread here:
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/block-wedge-problem.698343/#post-4424430
and here: https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...-friction-min-and-max-forces-involved.619902/

I understand everything except one significant detail. I have to choose between several options:
mg(sinθ−μ*cosθ)/(cosθ+μ*sinθ)


or mg(sinθ+μ*cosθ)/(cosθ+μ*sinθ)

Friction is static. I don't understand the numerator. Why is there -/+μ*sinθ or -/+μ*cosθ?? Could you give me a hint?

 
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Why don't you draw a Free Body Diagram of the block on the incline
 
Oh, you are right. I did it. I understand it now. Silly me.
Many thanks. :)
Block and wedge.png
 
Poetria said:
Oh, you are right. I did it. I understand it now. Silly me.
Many thanks. :)

You did it yourself mate! Cheers!
 
Poetria said:
Oh, you are right. I did it. I understand it now. Silly me.
Many thanks. :)
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Could you please explain that Fcos(theta) bit?
 
hjkchorong said:
Could you please explain that Fcos(theta) bit?
Nevermind, I've understood it now.
 

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