The relationship between Kinetic Energy and Position

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between position and kinetic energy in the context of a lab experiment involving a cart on a ramp. The original poster attempts to establish how the position of the cart correlates with its kinetic energy, particularly under the influence of gravitational force.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants inquire about the specific definition of "position" in relation to the cart, considering various interpretations such as vertical height or distance along the ramp. Questions are raised regarding the cart's behavior as it loses height and how this relates to kinetic and potential energy.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on definitions and observations. Some guidance is offered regarding the relationship between kinetic energy and speed, as well as suggestions to plot data for further analysis. Multiple interpretations of the position measurement are being explored.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the reference point for height (h=0) and the need for clarity on how position is measured. The original poster's observations and data are referenced, but specific details about the measurements remain unclear.

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So I am writting a lab, and one of the testable questions required me to come up with a relationship between position and kinetic energy.

In the lab a cart is released on a ramp and the end point of the cart is used as the reference point (h=0). We formed a position time graph and we are proving that energy is conserved (as long as gravity is the only force acting on the cart).

I need to find the relationship between position of the cart on the ramp and the kinetic energy is possesses.

I was thinking that it varies inversely, but I need to know why.
 
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Can you please specify a little more clearly how you are defining "position of the cart"? Is it the vertical height of the cart, the distance along the ramp from the bottom of the ramp, the distance along the ramp from the release point, or something else?
 
Taking h for height - from your observations, does the cart slow down or speed up as it loses height? How is kinetic energy related to speed? What about potential energy?
 
TSny said:
Can you please specify a little more clearly how you are defining "position of the cart"? Is it the vertical height of the cart, the distance along the ramp from the bottom of the ramp, the distance along the ramp from the release point, or something else?

Im referring to position as the distance it is from the final position (h=0 at final position).

Here is my observation chart, maybe it can help.

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/4217/chart8c.png
 
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Can't make that image out - it is very small.
Please read post #2 ... is the final position lower or higher than the initial position?
Does your data show that the cart is gaining or losing kinetic energy as it approaches the final position?

You have said what you measured h with respect to but not what h is a measure of ... there are lots of ways to measure the position of something. i.e. is it the horizontal distance to the cart? The vertical distance to the cart? The straight line distance to the cart? The distance along the track? Something else?

However, you should be able to work out the answer you want by considering the comments above and in post #3. You could also plot a graph of kinetic energy vs distance from your data.
 

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