The Sun's Power Output: Solving for P

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The problem involves calculating the power output of the Sun based on the intensity of electromagnetic waves at the Earth's upper atmosphere, which is given as 1.4 kW/m². Participants are exploring the relationship between intensity, power, and area in the context of spherical geometry.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the formula I = P/A but is unclear about the appropriate area to use. Some participants discuss the formula for the surface area of a sphere and question the meaning of terms in the equations presented.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively questioning the definitions and parameters involved in the problem. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the area calculation, with some guidance provided on using the surface area of a sphere and the concept of cross-sectional area. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or definitions.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the meaning of certain terms in the equations, particularly the E² term mentioned by one participant, and the implications of using different areas in the calculations. The discussion reflects a need for clarity on the parameters involved in the formulas.

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The Sun emits electromagnetic waves (including light) equally in all directions. The intensity of the waves at the Earth's upper atmosphere is 1.4 kW/m2. At what rate does the Sun emit electromagnetic waves? (In other words, what is the power output?)

I = P/A

I know I need to convert 1.4kW/m^2 ==> 1400W/m^2
Then I set that value = to P/A

What I'm unclear about is, what is the Area I am supposed to insert in the equation?
 
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*also, looking over my notes, I have A= 4piR^2 - E^2

I assume R = distance from Earth to sun, but what would E^2 represent?
 
any ideas? This is one of two problems I have left for the weekend - thanks!
 
I'm not sure what your E2 term represents here, but your area should be the surface area of a sphere A = 4\pi r^3.
 
Hoot...r^3?
 
No surface "area" is proportional to r^2. Volume, which is not relevant here, is proportional to r^3.

mikefitz said:
*also, looking over my notes, I have A= 4piR^2 - E^2

I assume R = distance from Earth to sun, but what would E^2 represent?
Darned if I know! You didn't even tell us what A represents. It's certainly not a good idea to copy a formula to your notes without writing down what each of the parameters means!

You are told that " The intensity of the waves at the Earth's upper atmosphere is 1.4 kW/m2." Find the surface area of a sphere with radius equal to the distance from the sun to the earth. Find the area that a disk with radius equal to the distance from the center of the Earth to the "upper atmosphere" (not the surface area of that sphere- you want the "cross section area" that intercepts the suns rays). The total energy output of the sun, divided by that first surface area, is equal to the sun's total energy output (in kilowatts) divided by the 1.4 kw/m2 that you are given.
 
neutrino said:
Hoot...r^3?
Damn typo :blushing:
 

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