Thermal physics problem on steel bar

AI Thread Summary
A thermal physics problem involving a steel bar and a copper bar welded together was discussed, focusing on finding the temperature at their junction and the total heat flow rate. The initial calculations for the junction temperature yielded an incorrect result, prompting a revision of the equation to correctly reflect the heat flow. After adjustments, the junction temperature was determined to be 294K, which falls between the temperatures of the two ends. The total rate of heat flow was calculated using the formula that incorporates the lengths and thermal conductivities of both bars, resulting in a value of 50.0W. The discussion highlighted the importance of correctly applying thermal equations in composite systems.
veemo
Messages
4
Reaction score
0
[SOLVED] Thermal physics problem

Homework Statement



A steel bar 10cm long is welded end-to-end to a copper bar 20cm long. Both bars are insulated perfectly along their sides. Each bar has a radius of 2.0cm. The free end of the steel bar is maintained at 100^{o}C and the free end of the copper bar is maintained at 0^{o}C. Find the temperature at the junction between the two bars and the total rate of flow of heat.

k_{steel}=50.2Wm^{-1}K^{-1}
k_{copper}=385.0Wm^{-1}K^{-1}

Homework Equations



H = \frac{dQ}{dt} = -kA\frac{dT}{dx}

The Attempt at a Solution



Copper:

\frac{dQ}{dt} = \frac{-kA(373-T)}{L} = \frac{-385\pi(2X10^{-2})^{2}(273-T)}{20X10^{-2}}

Where T is the point at the junction between the bars, piXr^{2} has been substituted in for A, and 273K = 0C

so \frac{dQ}{dt} = -2.42(273-T)Steel:

\frac{dQ}{dt} = \frac{-50.2\pi(2X10^{-2})^{2}(373-T)}{10X10^{-2}}

As 373K = 100C

so \frac{dQ}{dt} = -0.63(373-T)

I then said H_{copper} = H_{steel} which I'm not sure is correct as in the example I was given in class the two bars were of equal length, but continued with the following:

2.42(273-T)=0.63(373-T)
2.42T-0.63T=660.4-235.3

T=\frac{425.1}{1.79}= 238K

I'm not sure this is right as it is less than the temperature of the free end of the copper bar and surely the result should be between 273K and 373K?
Also I don't know where to start on finding the total rate of flow of heat... The only thing I could think of was adding the individual heat flows together but I'm sure there's more to it than that.
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
2.42(273-T)=0.63(373-T) This step is wrong. Rewright as 2.42(T- 273)=0.63(373-T) Now solve fro T.
 
Fantastic, thanks! 294K, that sounds better =)
How would I start going about finding the total rate of flow of heat?
I'm still not sure what to use for that.
 
Rate of flow of heat through the compound conductor is given by
delta(Q)/delta(t) = A*delta(T)/( l1/k1 + l2/k2)
 
Brilliant, thanks, I can't find that in my lecture notes -anywhere-.
I'll try it.
 
Ok I got 50.0W, that sounds sensible.
Thanks again!
 
I multiplied the values first without the error limit. Got 19.38. rounded it off to 2 significant figures since the given data has 2 significant figures. So = 19. For error I used the above formula. It comes out about 1.48. Now my question is. Should I write the answer as 19±1.5 (rounding 1.48 to 2 significant figures) OR should I write it as 19±1. So in short, should the error have same number of significant figures as the mean value or should it have the same number of decimal places as...
Thread 'A cylinder connected to a hanging mass'
Let's declare that for the cylinder, mass = M = 10 kg Radius = R = 4 m For the wall and the floor, Friction coeff = ##\mu## = 0.5 For the hanging mass, mass = m = 11 kg First, we divide the force according to their respective plane (x and y thing, correct me if I'm wrong) and according to which, cylinder or the hanging mass, they're working on. Force on the hanging mass $$mg - T = ma$$ Force(Cylinder) on y $$N_f + f_w - Mg = 0$$ Force(Cylinder) on x $$T + f_f - N_w = Ma$$ There's also...
Back
Top