Thermodynamics - change in internal energy of the system for the path

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The discussion revolves around a thermodynamics problem involving an ideal gas transitioning between states along specified paths. Participants are exploring the change in internal energy, heat transfer, and work done by or on the system as it moves from State a to State b through different paths.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to analyze the relationships between heat, work, and internal energy using the equation ΔQ = ΔU + ΔW. There are questions regarding the reasoning behind the chosen equations and the implications of the work done on or by the system.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of their reasoning and calculations. There is a request for feedback on the thought processes involved, indicating a collaborative effort to clarify concepts rather than simply verifying answers.

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Participants note the importance of providing reasoning alongside numerical calculations to enhance understanding and improve grading outcomes. There is an emphasis on the physical principles underlying the equations used.

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Thermodynamics -- change in internal energy of the system for the path

Homework Statement


A system comprising of an ideal gas is taken from State a to State b, as shown in Figure 9 below, along th epath acb. 200J of heat flows into the system and 80J of work is done by the system along the path acb.

1) Find the change in internal energy of the system for the path acb.

2)Suppose the system were taken from State a to State b along the path adb instead. find the work done if 140J of heat flows into the system along this path. Is work done on or by the system

3)If the work done on the gas is 50J for the curved path ba, what is the heat flowing into or out of the system for this path?

4)If the internal energy of the gas at State a is 40J, what is the internal energy of the gas

5) If the internal energy of the gas is 90J at State d, what is the value of the heat flowing into the system along the path ad?

Homework Equations


ΔQ = ΔU+ΔW

The Attempt at a Solution


In the posted picture

For Part 2...work is done by the system.
 

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Great!
Was there a question in all that?

For those who don't want to download the images:

Path AC is constant volume PA to PC
Path CB is constant pressure from VA=VC to VB > VA
Path BA is a concave-down curve... looks like an arc of a circle.
 
Woa so everything's good then?? :D


I also tried another one and this was my attempt at it:
 

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Woa so everything's good then?? :D
I don't know - is it? It's your post.
Was there something about it that you were unsure of?
Do you have some reason to doubt what you did?

Did you want me to check your work?

What I can do is check you reasoning and see if anything looks like it went awry from the POV of someone maybe marking it.
 
I wasn't sure if I worked it correctly...I won't mind if you checked my reasoning to see if everything's correct though.

Thanks :)
 
... only you don't show any reasoning.
It looks lie you are just plugging numbers into equations.

i.e. I see you have: ##\Delta Q=\Delta U + \Delta W## ... why did you choose that one?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_energy#Internal_energy_changes
... it helps you get good marks if you write a short comment about the physics you are using.
i.e. "work done by the system lowers internal energy, heat flow into the system increases it."
 

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