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Might try, http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/OmCheeto said:Anyone have any tips on how to capture "low contrast" images with a camera?
Might try, http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/OmCheeto said:Anyone have any tips on how to capture "low contrast" images with a camera?
I checked.1oldman2 said:Might try, http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/
That is seriously interesting.1oldman2 said:I know we have been over this before but this ones worth posting.
https://www.universetoday.com/136440/one-month-guide-total-solar-eclipse/
jim hardy said:when get a minute will see what they do to the sun.
https://www.greatamericaneclipse.com/idaho/ said:Traffic will be a critical issue on eclipse day. Idaho is the closest destination for tens of millions of people from southern California, Arizona, Utah, and Montana.
Quoting from the article, it's no wonder volunteers have been in short supply. (You would think a trained psychologist would know better than staring at the Eclipse long enough to blind himself.)OmCheeto said:After some googling, it looks as though there have not been enough volunteers for such a study, but;
If only it would be that peaceful. Just to be safe, I'm planning for a "Zombie Apocalypse":anorlunda said:Uh oh. I just read this article about eclipse mania. They make it sound like this scene from the movie Contact.
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This has been me, every day, for quite some time.It makes me fear that I may have seriously underestimated the logistics of seeing the totality.
My wife and I are departing Vermont in the beginning of August for a 6 week car+tent tour of the US Northwest & Canada. The high point of the trip would be the eclipse. It is not our habit to plan anything in advance when we tour. We just follow our noses.
I thought loosely that if we went to any remote area of Wyoming or Idaho or Oregon that we would have clear skies with no crowds. I did not plan to find a camp site within the zone of totality. But I thought we might be able to tent within 100 miles of the zone, and then drive in for the event and drive out again before dark. But in the remote areas, highways are also scarce. The approach roads might be jammed solid, and one can't find a private place behind a bush to pee. In short, my planning might be woefully inadequate.
Counting only the American West. It seems like infinite wide open space, but not really. Let me do a little Drake equation.
There are about 5 billion square meters of surface in the totality zone within 1000 miles of the Pacific. Optimistically, 1% of that is is within 200 m of a road. Figure 5 square meters per person including their car and chairs. There is room for only 10 million people, whereas 100 million people might be interested. Ay ay ay, it may get very crowded indeed.
10 million people also need about 3 million toilet visits per hour. My wife and I are 72, we're no longer like Woodstock hippies.
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One thing we won't do is to cancel. This is a chance of three lifetimes. I just hope that the news reports are greatly exaggerated.
Janus said:Just double checked, and our reservation in Lincoln City that we made back in early September is still good and for the same price as when we booked. Now its just a matter of good weather. (and no Hag fish spilled on the road. We spent three nights in Depoe Bay last week, and got caught in the traffic jam caused by that accident for better than an hour. If that wasn't bad enough, we were on a fairly steep incline and I have a stick shift. It was clutch and brake, clutch and brake the entire time.)
OmCheeto said:If only it would be that peaceful. Just to be safe, I'm planning for a "Zombie Apocalypse":
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[video of WWZombie]
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http://www.mountaincreekeclipse2017.com/
[Mitchell! Oregon]
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But I'm still going to wait on the weather report.
Dr Transport said:
https://eclipse2017.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/interactive_map/index.htmlanorlunda said:The website that gave you numbers for the spot you clicked looks useful. Do you have a link for it?
Dr Transport said:My spot...
I expect that this site underestimates the number of visitors, especially in the west, far away from the 2024 eclipse path:1oldman2 said:For those of you Statistically inclined.
https://www.greatamericaneclipse.com/statistics/
Based on this profile of an average person living 200 miles away, I estimate that this population has a high probability of 2% to drive into the path of totality and a low probability of 0.5%.
I believe the "stat" page I linked was only concerned with the event on the 21st, The 2024 show will be "Full House" over almost it's entire path due to the populated area it's covering, vastly different demographics from this years Eclipse. I have Family in both Lincoln City, Oregon and Thermopolis, Wyoming, after seeing the odds of favorable weather at both locations I've decided on being a little south of Thermopolis unless the weather goes to hell. Contingency spot is Mt. Borah, although my wife and I have hiked that area many times we won't be trying the peak due to her health. (Isn't it ironic how the edge of the Eclipse just brushes the northern part of "Craters of the moon".mfb said:I expect that this site underestimates the number of visitors, especially in the west, far away from the 2024 eclipse path:
Twas a similar video of Mt. Jefferson, that made me sad I'm so old.1oldman2 said:This would have to be one of the premium viewing sites in the country, note the Earthquake detail.
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...D_view.webm/Borah_Peak_ID_view.webm.480p.webm
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OmCheeto said:April 12, 2016
...it made me want to hike to the top of Mt. Jefferson ( 44°40'48" N 121°17'56W, elevation 10,500 feet), which is only 100 miles away, and almost directly in the path.
Most people just hook on a stout chain and take off in low gear. (Not that I'm advocating vandalism of forest service gates) Actually the best hiking is behind those gates due to the lack of traffic.OmCheeto said:I was actually devising plans of buying bolt cutters to get through forestry service gates,
Don't get me started.OmCheeto said:that made me sad I'm so old.
1oldman2 said:Most people just hook on a stout chain and take off in low gear. (Not that I'm advocating vandalism of forest service gates) Actually the best hiking is behind those gates due to the lack of traffic.
Don't get me started.
All said that Mt. Jefferson looks awesome.![]()
Sure, and I think they underestimate the number of people interested in it.1oldman2 said:I believe the "stat" page I linked was only concerned with the event on the 21st
1oldman2 said:I hadn't noticed the "Mercury aspect" of this project.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2017/chasing-the-total-solar-eclipse-from-nasa-s-wb-57f-jets
"Observations of Mercury will also be taken a half-hour before and after totality, when the sky is still relatively dark. These images, taken in the infrared, will be the first attempt to map the variation of temperature across the surface of the planet.
The images of the corona will also allow the team to search for a hypothesized family of asteroids called vulcanoids. Its thought these objects orbit between the Sun and Mercury, and are leftover from the formation of the solar system. If discovered, vulcanoids could change what scientists understand about planet formation."
Watch the video and try to visualize that it is the Earth that rotates, while the Sun stays in the same direction.BillTre said:This links to a video, from space, of the shadow of the moon, on the earth, during a recent eclipse.
Some folks just have no appreciation for celestial mechanics.OmCheeto said:said she was at Maryhill WA, and didn't think it was that big a deal.
Here is one that will be more "in tune"OmCheeto said:After looking at videos from the period, I can understand why.
It will also likely lead to...OmCheeto said:Do not take drugs before the eclipse. They will make you stoopid, and dance like a hippie, and miss the whole thing.
Also "That 70's show" isn't a reliable source of information.OmCheeto said:ps. Young peeps, never ever ask old people about the "70's"...
Good call, John Day seems like a better bet. Just "Head East" until you don't see anymore Banana Slugs, they are a reliable climate indicator.OmCheeto said:Given that it is "now" eclipse time, and it is quite hazy here, I think I should get ready for a road trip, in the opposite direction.
Page 128 tells a pretty good story about that.OmCheeto said:Vulcanoids?
Oh good grief, ain't nobody got time to be looking for "oh, and bye the way, can you look for these hypothetical thingys?"
It took me awhile, but it appears that she was fogged in.1oldman2 said:Some folks just have no appreciation for celestial mechanics.![]()
Here is one that will be more "in tune"
It will also likely lead to...
Never watched it. (Ok. Maybe once, but just to confirm that people who lived through it, didn't really remember it.)Also "That 70's show" isn't a reliable source of information.
Good call, John Day seems like a better bet. Just "Head East" until you don't see anymore Banana Slugs, they are a reliable climate indicator.![]()
Ahh, the coastal curse.OmCheeto said:It took me awhile, but it appears that she was fogged in.
Interesting, I never would have made the Moody Blues connection.OmCheeto said:A hmmm... This is the way my brain works.
Same here, I don't have patience enough to relive that one.OmCheeto said:Never watched it. (Ok. Maybe once, but just to confirm that people who lived through it, didn't really remember it.)
My guess is yes based on watching some Youtubes where people are shouting "Corona!" during the Diamond Ring. But that 0.03% giving you the Diamond Ring is still bright photosphere, and you are heavily discouraged from viewing it without a filter. And with a filter, you won't see the corona. So you'll be breaking everyone's safety advice by trying. Besides, the view of the corona will be much better with the photosphere completely blocked out. The amount of time you can see the corona will be greatly extended if you can complete the final 20 miles.anorlunda said:My question: will I be able to see the sun's corona with that 99.97%?
tony873004 said:Here's a simulation I made of the view from Bend.
tony873004 said:My guess is yes based on watching some Youtubes where people are shouting "Corona!" during the Diamond Ring. But that 0.03% giving you the Diamond Ring is still bright photosphere, and you are heavily discouraged from viewing it without a filter. And with a filter, you won't see the corona. So you'll be breaking everyone's safety advice by trying. Besides, the view of the corona will be much better with the photosphere completely blocked out. The amount of time you can see the corona will be greatly extended if you can complete the final 20 miles.
With 20 miles to the centerline, your friend must be closer to Redmond than Bend. 20 miles from centerline is in the path of totality.
Here's a simulation I made of the view from Bend. Find your friend's Latitude and Longitude and change it. Every 0.1 degrees more in latitude is about 7 miles. Notice how vastly the sky is improved by juat adding 0.1 degrees to latitude. Keep in mind this simulation is simply my guess as to what it will look like based on 2 total eclipses I have seen (but rained out) and 3 annular eclipses.
http://orbitsimulator.com/gravitySimulatorCloud/simulations/1501885903145_eclipseBend.html
From May:russ_watters said:...
How far out from the sun does the corona typically get? I'm thinking I might need a little less focal length...
tony873004 said:Look at the pictures on Miloslav Druckmüller's site.
http://www.zam.fme.vutbr.cz/~druck/Eclipse/Ecl2016i/0-info.htm
This will give you a very good idea as to how to frame your image. His images are created from bracketed images, so you get a dynamic range closer to what the human eye sees.
1oldman2 said:Some folks just have no appreciation for celestial mechanics.
Here is one that will be more "in tune"
It will also likely lead to...
This is where I'll be catching the show, looks real good as long as the showers on the 22nd don't show up early. (10 day forecastsStavros Kiri said:B) Also, isn't it time to start looking at regional weather reports?