What is the frequency of a mass-spring system oscillation?

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The discussion focuses on determining the frequency of oscillation for a mass-spring system where a massless spring hangs from the ceiling with an object attached. The object is released from a position where the spring is at rest, and it oscillates with its lowest point being 21 cm below the initial position. The relevant equations for period and frequency are provided, specifically T = 2π√(m/k) and f = (1/2π)√(k/m). The challenge arises from the lack of specific mass and spring constant values, leading to the need for an analytic solution for k that cancels out m. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding simple harmonic motion (SHM) principles to solve the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement



A massless spring hangs from the ceiling with a small object attached to its lower end. The object is initially held at rest in a position yi such that the spring is at its rest length. The object is then released from yi and oscillates up and down, with its lowest position being 21 cm below yi.

What is the frequency of the oscillation?


Homework Equations



T = 2pi sqrt(m/k)

Analyzing the forces,

At the rest position:
Fnet = k(yi) - mg = o
k(yi) = mg

Maximum distance below the rest position,

Fnet = k(\Deltay)

I know that the total energy of the system is given by the following:

E= U + K = 1/2k(A)^2


The Attempt at a Solution



Since I finding frequency I can just take the reciprocal for the equation for period:
f = (1/2pi)*sqrt(k/m)

I don't have any masses given so I'm assuming that I have to find the analytic solution for k that will cancel out the m.

I know that k = (mg/yi) but I wasn't given what yi is.

I'm think I have to do something with the energy of the system.

I really think I need more information, but there must be some way to solve this problem.
 
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ThePhoenixEffec said:
A massless spring hangs from the ceiling with a small object attached to its lower end. The object is initially held at rest in a position yi such that the spring is at its rest length. The object is then released from yi and oscillates up and down, with its lowest position being 21 cm below yi.

What is the frequency of the oscillation?

The first step is to prove that an oscillating body hanging from a spring executes SHM.

Let a body of mass m hang in equilibrium by stretching the spring by a length of x1. Then,

mg = kx1.

(Edited:)

Now suppose the spring is stretched by a dist x2 from its unstretched length position. Write down the force eqn and prove that it is indeed an SHM. (Consider x=x2-x1.)

After that, you can use all the results of SHM.
 
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