Very easy simple harmonic motion question that I keep getting wrong

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The discussion revolves around calculating the velocity of a piston in simple harmonic motion described by the equation x = (7.00 cm) cos(4t + π/6). The user initially attempts to find the velocity using the incorrect expression v(t) = -A sin(ωt + ϕ) without considering the necessary multiplication by the angular frequency ω. After receiving clarification, it is noted that the correct formula for velocity should include this factor, leading to the realization that the amplitude must be multiplied by ω to ensure proper units. The user acknowledges the oversight and corrects their approach to find the accurate velocity. Understanding the derivative and the proper application of the formula is crucial for solving such problems correctly.
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Homework Statement



In an engine, a piston oscillates with simple harmonic motion so that its position varies according to the following expression, where x is in centimeters and t is in seconds.

x = (7.00 cm) cos(4t + π/6)

At t = 0, what is its velocity?

Homework Equations



v(t) = -A sin(ωt + ϕ)

The Attempt at a Solution



It first asked me to find the position so I did that easily by plugging in for time and getting an answer. And to get velocity I just had to take the derivative of the initial function and then plug in once again. However, when I do this I do not get the correct answer and I can't figure out why.

The expression should read

v(t) = -7.00 cm sin (4(0) + π/6)

This basicaly breaks down to -7.00 * 1/2 right?

When I do this I get -3.5 cm/s and it says my answer is off by more than 10%. No idea what I am doing wrong.
 
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coldjeanz said:

Homework Statement



In an engine, a piston oscillates with simple harmonic motion so that its position varies according to the following expression, where x is in centimeters and t is in seconds.

x = (7.00 cm) cos(4t + π/6)

At t = 0, what is its velocity?

Homework Equations



v(t) = -A sin(ωt + ϕ)


The Attempt at a Solution



It first asked me to find the position so I did that easily by plugging in for time and getting an answer. And to get velocity I just had to take the derivative of the initial function and then plug in once again. However, when I do this I do not get the correct answer and I can't figure out why.

The expression should read

v(t) = -7.00 cm sin (4(0) + π/6)

This basicaly breaks down to -7.00 * 1/2 right?

When I do this I get -3.5 cm/s and it says my answer is off by more than 10%. No idea what I am doing wrong.

The expression in red above is not correct. It should be:

v(t) = -Aωsin(ωt + ϕ)

Since you know how to take a derivative, you can verify this for yourself. You can also see that the units work out in this case. The amplitude of the velocity has to have units of cm/s, not just cm.
 
Check your derivative carefully. While d/dt cos(t) = -sin(t), d/dt cos(ωt) ≠ -sin(ωt)...
 
Ah ok I was forgetting to multiply my Amplitude by ω

Got it thanks
 
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