Water drainage rate through soil.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on estimating the drainage rate of water through soil in the context of an aquaponic system design. Participants explore methodologies for determining this rate, considering factors such as soil type and properties of the soil.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the drainage rate is highly dependent on the type of soil used, specifically mentioning typical potting soil.
  • Another participant proposes that empirical testing is the best way to determine the drainage rate, noting that it can change over time.
  • A different participant elaborates on the need to measure soil permeability and porosity, indicating that these parameters are essential for calculating fluid flow through porous media.
  • This participant references standard methodologies used in fields like groundwater studies and oil and gas, recommending literature on flow through porous media for further guidance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how to estimate the drainage rate, with some advocating for empirical testing while others emphasize the importance of understanding soil properties. No consensus is reached on a singular method for estimation.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of estimating drainage rates, with factors such as soil type, permeability, porosity, and fluid viscosity being mentioned as critical yet unresolved elements.

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Hi,
I'm designing the attached aquaponic system and am trying to estimate the speed at which water will drain through the pipes. Basically, water enters the top of the pipe, then drains through roughly 5 feet of soil before it exits the pipe. Is there a way to estimate the speed at which the water will drain? I feel like it depends heavily on the type of soil. I was planning to use just your typical potting soil that you buy a a gardening store. Thanks!
 

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This is something you are best to determine empirically... do an experiment.
The drainage rate also changes over time.
 
Thanks Simon, I wouldn't have thought of that :).
 
zzinfinity said:
Hi,
I'm designing the attached aquaponic system and am trying to estimate the speed at which water will drain through the pipes. Basically, water enters the top of the pipe, then drains through roughly 5 feet of soil before it exits the pipe. Is there a way to estimate the speed at which the water will drain? I feel like it depends heavily on the type of soil. I was planning to use just your typical potting soil that you buy a a gardening store. Thanks!

This is a problem in "flow through porous media." You need to measure the permeability and porosity of a typical soil sample in an appropriate standardized piece of equipment. The porosity is the volume fraction of voids, and the permeability is characteristic parameter that allows you to calculate the fluid flow per unit area through a sample of a certain length, for a fluid of a specified viscosity, and for a specified pressure drop. See a book on flow through porous media, or start by looking in Transport Phenomena by Bird, Stewart, and Lightfoot. This is methodology that is extensively used by the groundwater people and by the oil and gas people. Look for a book with the title Groundwater. I forgot the authors' names.
 

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