Water evaporation by negative pressure and 0% of RH

In summary, the conversation is about trying to evaporate water from samples using 3 different methods. These methods involve different temperatures, air pressures, and relative humidity levels. The total amounts of water evaporated in each test are different. The speaker is looking for a way to quantify the amount of water evaporated in each condition, and a rough model is suggested using the vapor pressure of water, partial pressure, surface area, and flow rate. However, the first method may be different due to the presence of bubbles. The speaker expresses difficulty in understanding the concept and thanks the other person for their help.
  • #1
Galbi
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Greetings!

I'm trying to evaporate water in some samples. I'm trying 3 methods.
  1. Baking samples with 100°C, normal air pressure, and normal RH.
  2. Put the samples in 0% RH, 23°C, and normal air pressure.
  3. Put the samples in container of -15 psi air pressure, 23°C, and normal RH.
The total amounts of water evaporation from each tests are different.
Is there any equation to quantify how much water evaporate in each condition?
I'm looking for an answer like:

[70°C, 14.7 psi, 30% RH] = [23°C, 14.7 psi, 0% RH] = [23°C, -15psi, 30% RH].

I hope this is a just simple question :)

Thank you
 
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  • #2
What's the total air flow?
 
  • #3
Bystander said:
What's the total air flow?
The air of each container should be refreshed by air from outside. However, I don't know the flow rate. Could you suppose each container has the same air flow?
 
  • #4
Depends on how accurate a model you need. For a very rough model, maybe this will be enough:
Look up the vapor pressure of water versus temperature.
Calculate the partial pressure of water in the air.
(surface area) * ((Vapor pressure) - (partial pressure)) should be approximately proportional to the evaporation rate. Of course, flow rate matters too, but you'll be getting into complicated models. Actively heating the water will speed up the evaporation, since it takes energy to evaporate.

Case 1 will be different, since you are very close to boiling, which is faster than evaporation, since bubbles can form, greatly increasing the effective surface area.
 
  • #5
Khashishi said:
Depends on how accurate a model you need. For a very rough model, maybe this will be enough:
Look up the vapor pressure of water versus temperature.
Calculate the partial pressure of water in the air.
(surface area) * ((Vapor pressure) - (partial pressure)) should be approximately proportional to the evaporation rate. Of course, flow rate matters too, but you'll be getting into complicated models. Actively heating the water will speed up the evaporation, since it takes energy to evaporate.

Case 1 will be different, since you are very close to boiling, which is faster than evaporation, since bubbles can form, greatly increasing the effective surface area.
Wow this is tough. I'll keep studying about it.
Thank you very much.
 

What is water evaporation by negative pressure?

Water evaporation by negative pressure occurs when the pressure surrounding a liquid is lower than the vapor pressure of the liquid, causing it to evaporate. This process is also known as negative pressure evaporation or evaporation under vacuum.

How is water evaporation affected by 0% relative humidity (RH)?

In general, water evaporation is slower at 0% RH because there is less water vapor in the air to absorb the evaporated water molecules. However, at very low pressures and temperatures, water can still evaporate even at 0% RH due to the effects of negative pressure.

What are some applications of water evaporation by negative pressure and 0% RH?

One major application is in freeze-drying, where negative pressure and low humidity are used to remove water from food or pharmaceuticals without damaging their structure. Negative pressure evaporation is also used in some chemical and industrial processes, as well as in vacuum systems for moisture removal.

Can negative pressure evaporation cause water to freeze?

No, negative pressure evaporation does not cause water to freeze. In fact, negative pressure can lower the boiling point of water, making it easier for water to evaporate at low temperatures.

How does negative pressure evaporation differ from normal evaporation?

The main difference is the pressure surrounding the liquid. In normal evaporation, the pressure is equal to the atmospheric pressure, while in negative pressure evaporation, the pressure is lower. This difference can greatly impact the rate of evaporation and the conditions under which it occurs.

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